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Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by radicalbyte on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @04:28AM (#12164131)
I doubt it. I come from the South West of England (known for enormous consumption of dairy products) and people aren't tall. I'm just under 6ft and was tall there, whereas I'm short here in The Netherlands.

It's probably a combination of genetics, cycling everywhere and eating so many slices of brown bread and potatoes.

Basic statistics also plays a part: when comparing arbitrary groups you'll often see smaller groups as outliers. Both high and low. Dutch population isn't huge (16m) so that is also a contributing factor..

Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @04:57AM (#12164251)
> often see smaller groups as outliers

Is there a name for that phenomenon? I saw a similar thing in some data that we were looking at recently, and it took a while to work out that the reason why one group's number was consistently a bit smaller than another group's number was that we were simply taking the max of a smaller group. it's obvious in retrospect, but can catch you out if you're not expecting it.

I'd like to have a name for it, a reference to send people to.

Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by duggan on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @05:06AM (#12164279)
I think the terms you're looking for are local maxima and minima.
Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @05:17AM (#12164333)
I have looked at the reference for this (1) and I don't think it captures the idea that statistically, small groups vary more.

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima

Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by duggan on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @05:59AM (#12164489)
Ah, I think I'm with you now. My stats is rusty, but I think what you're asking about is one of the fundamentals of variance.

I think this[1] Stats StackExchange answer frames it well.

[1]: http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/129885/why-does-inc...

Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @07:34AM (#12164846)
That is helpful, thanks. Especially this part:

> I believe that the Law of Large Numbers explains why the variance (standard error) goes down when the sample size increases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

So what I was looking at is the inverse of the law of large numbers.

Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by misja111 on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @04:31AM (#12164141)
Good point about the outlier bias for small countries. It could explain why Estonia, Latvia and Iceland are in the top 10.
Re:Dutch men confirmed as world's tallest by gpvos on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @05:30AM (#12164379)
Yeah, the Dutch may be more into carbohydrates than other countries.