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Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by cloudjacker on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:13PM (#12161275)
I wish I could get some rest API and websockets into the debt and credit default swaps market, really inefficient markets that reveal a lot about sentiment

don't need high frequency at all, just pretty average latency actually (for now anyway)

IB probably has this, not sure though. But those data costs are a huge deterrent for me!

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by sseveran on Monday July 25, 2016 @05:33PM (#12161764)
CDS and debt are not really inefficient markets. Some bonds are less liquid than others but there is currently a rapid conversion to electronic trading going on. CDS is also a very mature market. Not saying that those markets don't contain signal but they are not very inefficient.
Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by cloudjacker on Monday July 25, 2016 @06:09PM (#12161986)
You're right, I would primarily like to see them more liquid so that there were more data points to extrapolate moves across different asset classes
Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by sseveran on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:09PM (#12162261)
What you really want is more transparent data. There are plenty of data points but they are not easily accessible.
Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by cloudjacker on Monday July 25, 2016 @08:45PM (#12162613)
and I think the lack of this perpetuates market inefficiencies. I think insights into CDS can be a leading indicator into equities and equity futures, yet CDS are restricted to OTC markets in the US

anyway, I'm sure this is its own discussion

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by sseveran on Monday July 25, 2016 @11:09PM (#12163103)
CDS isn't an OTC instruments. Swaps are now traded on SEFs like MarketAxess or TradeWeb. Just because you don't have access to the data don't think that professionals don't. But this isn't OHLC data for listed equities. Expect to pay. Actually high quality realtime equity data (ITCH,PITCH,OpenBook Ultra,etc...) costs real money as well.

Checkout CDS and FI market data offerings: https://www.marketaxess.com/data/marketdata.php

But your idea is correct. CDS Spreads can be predictive of dramatic shocks in an equities price.

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by cloudjacker on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @12:08AM (#12163277)
That is awesome

Yeah i get the promise: professionals do this, pay a premium for that

Until they don't because someone provides the data for free or next to nothing

In this town we call it disruption

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by infinite8s on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:30AM (#12165846)
Who's going to provide that data for free when they can charge a LOT of money for access to it. Ever notice why free data on Google or Yahoo are 15 min delayed?
Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by cloudjacker on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @11:35AM (#12166342)
I know what the exchanges charge for data access, and even if you pay it is in an antiquated format.

Tradier has been providing equity and option tick data for free for years in a clean RESTful API with the capability of websockets and streaming. So thats the answer to your question of who.

Like I said, in this town we call it disruption.

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by sseveran on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @06:13PM (#12169113)
Thats part of their business model. I have not used their data but I can tell you that all tick data is not created equally.

We are unlikely to ever see CDS data for free since individuals cannot trade them as most retail investors are not Eligible Contract Participant. Some brokerages give away data to get people to trade with them so there its about customer acquisition.

Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by Balbir on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:02AM (#12172071)
I am a developer that has done a few projects on the tradier API. Agreed
Re:Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python by whatok on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:26PM (#12161369)
I think DTCC has some freely available live CDS data but I forget where and don't know how the APIs are.