Reddit is still in turmoil

Re:Reddit is still in turmoil by maratd on Monday July 25, 2016 @01:34PM (#12160169)

> This is harder than it already being local, or apt-get install turning into apt-get source. Likely, if they find your app interesting they will keep using it directly from your URL and end up at your mercy.

You have the same issues with the centralized package distribution system you're pushing? You're reliant on a 3rd party. How many apt-get the source? Saving source on a front-end web app is as simple as clicking "Save As" in the browser and you get the bonus of not having to compile anything. It'll just work.

> Your argument is analogous to a C programmer insisting that if one just follows the rules, C is just as expressive and safe as a higher level language.

Not quite. You're simply not seeing the levels of abstraction present in your ecosystem because you're used to them. Centralized repositories, binaries, toolchains, etc.

> "Web" implies executing code off of a third-party server.

If you follow this logic, your apt-get example is executing binaries off a 3rd party server. You sure you want to go there?

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Re:Reddit is still in turmoil by mindslight on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @09:18PM (#12169899)

Yes, I'll happily go there - it's a flaw. I'm not "pushing" apt, I used it as an example with a slightly better way of handling source. At this point, I probably should be running Gentoo/Nix/Guix (but I should also be running Qubes) but my investment in Debian has been too compelling. I'm well aware of sticky path dependence retarding progress, which is exactly why I'm nonplussed about working around the base assumptions of the "web" to make free software.

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