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Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by Nursie on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:35AM (#12157263)
There has been large-scale resistance from US retailers for some reason, compardd to the rest of the world.

Also there has been this idea that it's for other countries with worse comms networks and high fraud levels, despite the fraud actually being worsr in the US as skimming magnetic stripes is still viable.

Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by wccrawford on Monday July 25, 2016 @06:17AM (#12157652)
For many businesses, it represents a major change in the process. Restaurants, for instance, are having a heck of a time with it. For a few months, one of my favorite restaurants would bring me the check, have me write the tip on the check, then take the card and go enter that information, and then return with the slip for me to sign.

Personally, I liked it, but it's different enough that most customers would probably hate it... And the restaurant definitely didn't like it. I could read it in their faces every time they brought the bill and explained the system. (I'm regular enough that they eventually stopped explaining, though.)

Other businesses have to deal with people just plain not understanding what's going on for a while. Many people here are so set in their ways that a small thing like "insert" instead of "swipe" is enough to confuse them to the point of having a bad shopping experience, which is obviously bad for business, not to mention how much longer it takes to check people out when they spend so long fiddling with the card machine.

Finally, neither the store nor the customer were responsible for fraud. With the credit card company taking the hit for that, there's very little incentive for them to change.

Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by Symbiote on Monday July 25, 2016 @06:31AM (#12157701)
The usual method for tipping with a Chip+PIN card at a restaurant in Europe is for the terminal, which the waiter hands to you, to display a message like "Add tip? Yes/No" or "Tip amount". You type the amount, press OK, then input your PIN.

This is what [1] terms "Table pay", but it also gives "Tip Allowance", which seem to be the system you've described.

At least in Britain, before Chip+PIN cards (12 years ago), paying by card in a restaurant was considered somewhat risky — waiters weren't trusted not to clone the card. Perhaps that's why customers were happy to use "Table pay".

[1] http://www.emv-connection.com/managing-card-based-tip-and-gr...

Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by wichert on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:52AM (#12158006)
The closest to that I have seen was a terminal in Alaska (or Canada, not sure) which had a option to add a percentage. Had to do a bit of mental math to figure out the right percentage to end up at a nice round number :)

I've certainly never seen an option like that in NL. The three common things I see here are 1) you say "make it amount X" before staff enters the amount in the terminal, 2) you leave some extra cash on the table after paying the normal amount with your card, 3) just don't tip (which is acceptable here since wages are decent enough).

Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by rtpg on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:11AM (#12157828)
Great opportunity to get rid of tipping altogether and just set a 15% service charge!
Re:Why You Still Can’t Use a Chip Card Everywhere by wccrawford on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:02PM (#12175140)
Except that restaurants that have tried that have done rather poorly with it. Americans just aren't used to it, and until there's a larger campaign for it, it's not going to change. To be clear, this is a local restaurant and not a chain.