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Re:China is challenging the idea that censorship thwarts onl... by Chathamization on Thursday July 21, 2016 @12:48PM (#12138125)
> Millions of illegal immigrants (~11 mil by DHS estimates) and porous border through which they come and go as they please is definitely a problem.

That number is down 1 million from the DHS estimate of 12 million in 2007. That population has shrunk, yet the total U.S. population has grown by 20+ million during the same time period. It's hard to see how rational people would see this as a major problem (or in the case of many Trump supports, their number one issue).

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Re:China is challenging the idea that censorship thwarts onl... by ChemicalWarfare on Thursday July 21, 2016 @01:32PM (#12138512)
are you telling me 11 million ppl being here illegally coming and going as they please is not a problem?

sure, the numbers fluctuate up and down driven by many factors - economy, laws etc that doesn't change the fact that we have a porous border and a huge number of illegals.

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