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Re:The Politically Incorrect Guide to Ending Poverty (2010) by zo1 on Sunday July 17, 2016 @04:56PM (#12111779)
"The problem with you libertarians is that everything you say works with spherical objects in a frictionless vacuum, so to speak. But the real world isn't such a place. Outside your idealistic worldview everything collapses."

Remind me again how big the death-toll from government wars is?

Or perhaps simply how badly it is failing at taking care of the sick, the poor, and the needy in almost every single 1st world country?

You are right, outside of our idealistic view of the world, everything does collapse. I am watching it collapse right now, on the state's watch.

>"It doesn't work for impoverished, illiterate, uneducated people with the weight of poverty"

Luckily, those people have noble individuals such as yourself to tell them what to do, and fix their problems for them. Because you deem them unfit to do so for themselves.

Re:The Politically Incorrect Guide to Ending Poverty (2010) by andrepd on Sunday July 17, 2016 @05:40PM (#12111992)
>Or perhaps simply how badly it is failing at taking care of the sick, the poor, and the needy in almost every single 1st world country?

That's quite a bold claim to make. I'm afraid I can't quite see what you mean by that. What I can see is that the countries with the most regulation and state "babysitting", as you like to call it, are the ones best placed in any poverty, development, health or well-being index. I really don't see what you can possibly mean by "badly failing at taking care of the sick, the poor, and the needy in almost every single 1st world country".

Re:The Politically Incorrect Guide to Ending Poverty (2010) by zo1 on Sunday July 17, 2016 @06:22PM (#12112160)
I count it as failed if the government is spending money from the budget on unnecessary items while any social problem is still unresolved. That includes homelessness, poverty, health-care for the poor/needy/elderly, etc. Same goes for crime, road-fatalities, and a multitude of other things we expect of the government. These should be largely solved problems by now, especially with the technology available these days.

Either way, yes you are most likely statistically right. Spending on healthcare, poverty, and disabled individuals probably directly correlates with their well-being. You were presenting a case against a hypothetical ideal, and claiming it would not be able to fix social problems in a non-idealized setting. The counter-claim to that is that those very same things are not resolved in a society almost-exclusively run by state-governments, either. Whether 1st world or otherwise.