Re:Full Metal Jacket: A Visual Programming Language Based on...
by TeMPOraL on Saturday July 16, 2016 @08:43PM
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Thanks for your comment - it's insightful, and definitely not trolling.
> Remember that "interactive computing" was once a radical idea, the realization of which required people to spend their lives and resources fighting for it (Licklider, Englebart, and Bob Taylor et al, to name a few).
Yeah, but the funny thing is that this radical idea only sparked for a while, and then was extinguished. Present world, with all the hip languages we use on our $dayjobs[], is pretty far behind what Englebart et al. were working on. Event the present Lisp (and Smalltalk) systems are mere shadows of the "interactive computing" of the past. People are slowly rediscovering the concept again though, gently pushed by visionaries like Bret Victor.
I 100% agree with your comment about data. The most successful dataflow languages I've heard of were always tied to some particular data processing tasks - like music and general DSP. It's a good driving force that helps immediately verify the feasibility of the language and the environment.
> Remember that "interactive computing" was once a radical idea, the realization of which required people to spend their lives and resources fighting for it (Licklider, Englebart, and Bob Taylor et al, to name a few).
Yeah, but the funny thing is that this radical idea only sparked for a while, and then was extinguished. Present world, with all the hip languages we use on our $dayjobs[], is pretty far behind what Englebart et al. were working on. Event the present Lisp (and Smalltalk) systems are mere shadows of the "interactive computing" of the past. People are slowly rediscovering the concept again though, gently pushed by visionaries like Bret Victor.
I 100% agree with your comment about data. The most successful dataflow languages I've heard of were always tied to some particular data processing tasks - like music and general DSP. It's a good driving force that helps immediately verify the feasibility of the language and the environment.