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Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by jacquesm on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @02:57AM (#12084354)
> No force was detected on the steering wheel for over two minutes after autosteer was engaged," said Tesla, which added that it can detect even a very small amount of force, such as one hand resting on the wheel.

That would seem to me to be reason to steer the car to the shoulder and disengage the auto-pilot.

Tesla is trying to take too big a step here and blaming the driver(s) of these cars is really really bad PR.

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by Angostura on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:31AM (#12084766)
> That would seem to me to be reason to steer the car to the shoulder and disengage the auto-pilot.

Agreed. Or where a shoulder isn't available engage hazard flashers and drop speed to 10 miles an ho

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by kirkbauer on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @02:25PM (#12088485)
How can autopilot know if it is safe to steer into the shoulder? It won't even change lanes without driver input.
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by dragonwriter on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:58PM (#12089611)
> How can autopilot know if it is safe to steer into the shoulder?

I would suggest that if it can't, its not ready for general use on consumer road vehicles.

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by kirkbauer on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @05:37PM (#12089859)
Isn't that one of the reasons there is still a driver? Cruise control will drive you right off of the road until you crash with no awareness of the shoulder or other traffic or anything. But it is all over the place.
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by lsaferite on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @07:31AM (#12085346)
Except for that one case where there is no shoulder, just a 500 foot drop to death.
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by bmer on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @12:04PM (#12087273)
Restrict auto-steering to very specific roads which have sufficient information. That's basically the vast majority of roads.