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Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by lucb1e on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @08:20PM (#12083205)
> They should change the name to "driver assist" or something more accurate given that mis-interpreting the system's function can lead to death of the driver or others.

While I definitely agree on the name change, it should be accompanied by a feature change. In its current mode, and especially if people know it has been renamed, the same stuff will happen.

When you take your hands off the wheel, it turn on warning lights, break increasingly hard (depending on what it detects behind it) and sound loud warnings in the car. If it's truly an assistive feature where you can't be inattentive, the only scenario in which you stop steering is when you fell asleep.

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by heurist on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @08:27PM (#12083233)
That's what it does - it alerts drivers, and when their hands are off for some amount of time the car will pull off to the shoulder and stop until your hands are back on the wheel (IIRC).
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by studentrob on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @10:16PM (#12083534)
What's the interval between when you take your hands off and it decides to pull over? From what I've seen in discussions and videos, it's pretty long. Other car manufacturers seem to only allow a few seconds.
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by cpncrunch on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @12:35AM (#12083902)
The article seems to imply that the warning is given if driving conditions become "uncertain" and the driver's hands are off the wheel. Perhaps the time interval between warning and the car automatically stopping should be lower. What's the point of the car continuing on autopilot if it's uncertain of where it's headed?
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by enraged_camel on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @01:23AM (#12084027)
More details here:

http://www.teslarati.com/what-happens-ignore-tesla-autopilot...

Based on that account, it seems the warning is triggered if the road becomes curvy. There may also be additional triggers.

It seems insufficient to me. IMO there should be an interval of at most 5 seconds before the first warning, and another 5 seconds before the second, and then the car should start decelerating.

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by studentrob on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @12:47AM (#12083928)
> What's the point of the car continuing on autopilot if it's uncertain of where it's headed?

Haha agreed! I don't know exactly how the system works. My sense is Tesla's AP let's you be hands off for a much longer time than other self driving systems

Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by the_mitsuhiko on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @02:16AM (#12084201)
I think about three minutes. My VW Passat demands the hands back on the steering wheel after 15 seconds or so I believe. Same experience driving a recent Audi.
Re:Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana by lucb1e on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @08:30PM (#12083251)
Ah okay, I don't own a Tesla and this wasn't covered in news articles.

In that case, it sounds like it might actually work more or less as it should. It's just a bit useless in its current form.