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Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by mpweiher on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @05:35PM (#12082441)
"Neither of these conditions are in the interest of the EU or the UK if talks are to be amicable and realistic."

Well, that's your opinion. EU officials and heads of government appear to disagree with your view of what's best for them, having consistently and unerringly insisted that there will be NO negotiations whatsoever until Article 50 is invoked.

Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by hardlianotion on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @07:37PM (#12082987)
Except that this is not the case. In the last week, already, we have had senior government officials from several member countries recognising that this is not a realistic stance. And the foreign secretary explicitly mentions that UK is having precisely these conversations.

The new administration is setting up a brexit department and accumulating expertise necessary to start negotiations. Talk is of article 50 invocation by year end (I think).

Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by mpweiher on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @02:49AM (#12084326)
In the last week, already, we have had senior government officials from several member countries recognising that this is not a realistic stance.

Citation needed.

I have never seen this, and a quick check reveals the opposite:

"Ms Merkel added: “We have spoken to Britain and made clear there will be no negotiations with Britain until they have made their application, and there will be no cherry picking.”"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-refe...

This is from yesterday.

Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by hardlianotion on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @03:55AM (#12084585)
The idea that nobody will discuss anything is simply unsustainable, given the timescales and uncertainty involved.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/philip-hammo...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/02612186-467b-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86...

Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by mpweiher on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @02:25PM (#12088484)
You do understand the difference between "negotiation" and "having an informal chat with colleagues"?
Re:UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Br... by hardlianotion on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @03:34PM (#12088997)
It does seem we are talking at cross purposes.