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Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by TeMPOraL on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:38AM (#12070933)
The problem isn't with labels per se. Sure, informed choice is best and all. But people are asking for GMO labels not because of a need to exercise informed choice - the campaigning is done because of irrational fears of GMO. Call it asking for an OK-ish thing for very wrong reasons.

And DHMO in this context means the GMO fear makes about as much sense as DHMO fear. People are afraid because it sounds "chemically".

Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by pbhjpbhj on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:55AM (#12071907)
>the campaigning is done because of irrational fears of GMO.

But not allowing be to have the data to make a choice because a certain undefined cadre of society considers that choice to be irrational seems exceedingly likely to have a chilling effect.

So now you can't label your goods as phthalate-free because someone somewhere decided, perhaps with the help of a plastics manufacturer (yes I'm cynical), that "there's no rational reason to avoid them"?

This prevents people from being more conservative with risk than the authority who decides we're not allowed to have that information; yes it also means people can make a decision that you wouldn't but we all have the information available.

Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by ajnin on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:30AM (#12071700)
You're assuming and generalizing what people think based on nothing but your own prejudice. Maybe GMOs pose no risk (even though the definition of 'GMO' is so vague that it is impossible to be so generally affirmative), but what if I want to eat traditional varieties, what if I don't want to support multinational companies which ruin the lives of small farmers around the world, don't I have a right to do so ? Should that right be taken away from me because you don't think personally it is something worthy of concern ?
Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by mtone on Monday July 11, 2016 @12:12PM (#12072054)
If you the GMO products are consistently 15% cheaper (thanks to better yields and lower waste they are promising) and routinely labeled organic (thanks to the promised reduction in pesticides requirements), consumers will be attracted to it.

If GMOs have nothing to offer, why would the consumer want them, harmful or not?

Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by TeMPOraL on Monday July 11, 2016 @06:37PM (#12075353)
> and routinely labeled organic (thanks to the promised reduction in pesticides requirements)

Except they won't be, because "organic" doesn't involve less pesticides - it often involves more pesticides but of a more "natural" flavour. It may have started from the desire of some consumers to buy food that's made locally and with a more pre-industrial feel to it (because they believe it's healthier), but now it's just a way to milk people who have strong opinions about food.

Re:How we're scammed into eating phony food by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @06:14AM (#12077895)
Are you talking about USA labelling here?

In the EU (as we still are in the UK for the moment) this http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/organic/eu-policy/eu-legisla... is the situation with food labelled "Organic". It's certainly not about being pre-industrial, it's about being sustainable and cautious with natural resources and health.