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Re:Brexit Is a Lehman Moment for European Banks by cm3 on Sunday July 10, 2016 @11:14AM (#12065844)
Besides being off-the-books and under-the-radar, how was Madoff's operation different than that? Genuinely curious.
Re:Brexit Is a Lehman Moment for European Banks by cm2187 on Sunday July 10, 2016 @11:17AM (#12065861)
A bank is solvent, Madoff wasn't. Madoff didn't have any asset, the cash you would have invested with him had been used to pay off other investors.

A bank has assets, the money you lent the bank (through your deposit) is invested in a mortgage, backed by a property. You will ultimately get your money back. but it is a timing issue (and therefore liquidity), not a solvency issue.

Re:Brexit Is a Lehman Moment for European Banks by WillPostForFood on Sunday July 10, 2016 @02:48PM (#12066670)
It's a liquidity issue if the bank invested in mortgages (usually), but it can be a solvency issue if they are invested in debt (sovereign or corporate) that can be defaulted on.
Re:Brexit Is a Lehman Moment for European Banks by Spooky23 on Sunday July 10, 2016 @01:27PM (#12066318)
Totally different. A bank generates a return on it's deposits.

Madoff just paid a dividend or phony appreciation to investors based on money deposited by new investors -- except for the money he stole it was a closed system with no return generated.

He also concentrated his efforts on courting a relatively insular community (religious Jews) via trusted community figures to avoid awkward questions.

Thats usually a sign of a scam -- banks don't send your priest/rabbi/community leader to hawk CDs. But there are many hustles (Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes, and various savings clubs) that are common in ethnic and religious communitiesand apread via word of mouth.