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Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by CaptSpify on Friday July 08, 2016 @05:25PM (#12058773)
Another anecdotal story: I'm white, and been pulled over plenty. Never thought much of it. I lived in a mostly white nice neighborhood.

I was riding with a black friend, and when he was pulled over in the same town, it was a drastically different experience. He was pulled over for no reason, and ultimately got a ticket for "possible possession of drugs". We were told to leave the car, separated, and spent ~1 hour being drilled with questions.

A very eye-opening experience.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by narrowrail on Friday July 08, 2016 @09:02PM (#12059602)
I love speeding ticket anecdotes!

I’m white, and live in CO. I was traveling the day before Thanksgiving and traveled through South Fork, CO (which is at the bottom of a mtn. pass). I was just following the car in front of me (at a 200m distance), doing ~40mph. Apparently, the speed limit drops to 35mph for a short stretch in the ‘business district.' I saw him in my rear-view, pulled over, and he pulled-up beside me. He rolled down his window and told me to follow him because he had someone else to ticket (I was clocked at 43mph he said). He gave us both tickets that were $100/ no points if paid quickly, it’s a total racket.

Also, I’ve been pulled over ~15 times in the last 20 years (mostly in Boulder), and I’ve never left my hands on the wheel. I immediately go to my glove box and get my registration/insurance, then grab my license. By the time the cop gets to my window, I just hand over all 3 documents at once.

One time, I was doing 90mph through Denver at 4am for a Crispy Creme run as the designated driver. On I-25, I think the speed limit there was 55-60mph. He gave me a warning.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by bduerst on Saturday July 09, 2016 @01:37PM (#12062403)
Those are some super cool stories that you just enthusiastically listed. Thanks.

Do any of these involve anyone other than just you? You know, that offer a comparison and are relevant to the discussion?

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by narrowrail on Saturday July 09, 2016 @02:44PM (#12062695)
It seems that you are questioning the relevance of my contribution. I believe the relevance is that in mostly-white CO these 'rules' that everybody seems to parrot about dealing with cops don't apply. I don't have to leave my hands on the steering wheel. So, my (perhaps erroneous) conclusion has been that when there is little racial diversity, these problems don't seem as prevalent.

Edit: Just to be clear, I do not appreciate the antagonistic tone in your comment.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by dragonwriter on Monday July 11, 2016 @04:42PM (#12074386)
The "rules" often cited aren't because there will be a problem in most cases if you don't follow them. Instead, its because they will be problem in a very small (much <1%) of cases if you don't follow them, and the potential cost is very high.

(I'm not -- at least, not exclusively, or in general perception -- white, have lived in parts of CA with lots of diversity, and have often failed to follow the "rules" without problem -- and don't think any of that is unexpected even with the "rules" being valid.)

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by bduerst on Monday July 11, 2016 @03:52PM (#12073877)
>my (perhaps erroneous) conclusion has been that when there is little racial diversity, these problems don't seem as prevalent.

Even then you would need to have a cop-experience involving other races, in areas of "little racial diversity" to make this conclusion -i.e. Your black friend and you (white) were treated no differently than the other times you were pulled over alone.

Your stories really only involve you, which is weird that you think they're relevant.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by whacker on Friday July 08, 2016 @07:58PM (#12059398)
what on earth is 'possible possession of drugs'?
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by CaptSpify on Friday July 08, 2016 @09:59PM (#12059730)
Great question! It was thrown out of court in the end, but the cop really didn't have any reason to pull us over, and despite searching the whole car, he couldn't find any drugs. He had to write a ticket for something though, I guess.
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by michaelbuddy on Friday July 08, 2016 @08:44PM (#12059540)
It's a lie he's telling. That's what that is.