Re:Oracle and the fall of Java EE
by hinkley on Friday July 08, 2016 @12:21PM
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I was an early Java adopter. And as much as I'm convinced that Larry Ellison hunts humans for sport, the fact of the matter is that Sun got dazzled by bullshit long before Oracle got their mits
on it.
The truth is, J2EE 1.0 was not designed by grown ups. It was designed by college kids and academics who ironically enough wouldn't know the 8 fallacies of network computing if it but them on the ass.
Because it DID bite them on the ass and we have nearly 5 years of vendors flaunting and then polluting the spec to prove it.
Then we have Josh Bloch, who everyone but me thinks is great, who introduced Duck Typing to the JDK (MethodNotImplementedException) and only later confessed that he couldn't understand variance. People defend their bad code by pointing to similar code in the JDK, and Bloch stunted the growth of an entire generation of developers. Then repeated the exact same mistakes at Google.
Me, I'm waiting for a language that Bloch had nothing to do with, and I want to get back to working in limited resource environments. My eye is on Rust right now, and I have my fingers crossed.
The truth is, J2EE 1.0 was not designed by grown ups. It was designed by college kids and academics who ironically enough wouldn't know the 8 fallacies of network computing if it but them on the ass.
Because it DID bite them on the ass and we have nearly 5 years of vendors flaunting and then polluting the spec to prove it.
Then we have Josh Bloch, who everyone but me thinks is great, who introduced Duck Typing to the JDK (MethodNotImplementedException) and only later confessed that he couldn't understand variance. People defend their bad code by pointing to similar code in the JDK, and Bloch stunted the growth of an entire generation of developers. Then repeated the exact same mistakes at Google.
Me, I'm waiting for a language that Bloch had nothing to do with, and I want to get back to working in limited resource environments. My eye is on Rust right now, and I have my fingers crossed.