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Re:Economic Reality by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday July 05, 2016 @07:54PM (#12040339)
>You want to demand higher wages? Great. Yet more jobs go overseas

> The jobs that can go overseas are pushed overseas regardless.

No. For every increase in the minimum wage, some incremental amount of jobs get pushed overseas.

What is true, though, is that those jobs were pretty crummy jobs. You can make a case that we didn't want them anyway. And if we had better jobs to replace them with, I think I'd agree. We don't, though, at least not at the moment.

> >You want to protect against cheap imports (created by cheap workers) with tariffs? Well, you just made everything everyone buys from overseas more expensive

> When that's offset by rising wages, the people at the bottom end aren't bothered. They're happy, in fact.

That's probably true. It probably hurts the middle class, though. Hurting the middle class to help the bottom isn't really the trade-off we want. We want the pain to go more to the upper- or upper-middle class.

Re:Economic Reality by crdoconnor on Tuesday July 05, 2016 @08:09PM (#12040398)
>No. For every increase in the minimum wage, some incremental amount of jobs get pushed overseas.

^^^ What gets threatened by lobbyists fighting minimum wage increases.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/b9602ba0-3c91-11e6-8716-a4a71e8140... (Push for higher wages squeezes US corporate profits)

^^^ What actually happens in reality

>That's probably true. It probably hurts the middle class, though. Hurting the middle class to help the bottom isn't really the trade-off we want

^^^ What politicians say when Bernie Sanders proposes raising taxes on people earning over 200k / year.

There isn't much of a middle class left in America these days. The people who would be helped are in the majority.