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Re:Ask HN: Rust or Swift for system programming? by winstonewert on Monday July 04, 2016 @05:37PM (#12033156)
Is reference counting not implicit manual memory management as well?
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Re:Ask HN: Rust or Swift for system programming? by pcwalton on Monday July 04, 2016 @09:12PM (#12033862)
No! Reference counting is dynamic tracking of object lifetimes. If reference counting is implicit manual memory management, then so is tracing GC!
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Re:Ask HN: Rust or Swift for system programming? by winstonewert on Tuesday July 05, 2016 @11:31AM (#12037095)
Manual means "a thing operated or done by hand rather than automatically or electronically, in particular." It is very strange to me that you've decided the manual means: non-dynamic tracking of object lifetimes.
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