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Re:UN council: Nations, stop switching off the internet by throwawayIndian on Sunday July 03, 2016 @12:25PM (#12026549)
> India's de jure protections on free speech are far greater than (for example) what the UK grants.

Nope, it is isn't. Comparison between UK & India with vastly different citizenry, laws, enforcement and track record is a non starter.

> You're vastly overstating what is "well known" about Modi, but even if you weren't...

I wish to bring your statement forward: it is spot on here!

You're right. We can never be certain about Modi's role in the massacre without the democracy in question being available, i.e. a democracy that stands for: equity, representation, freedom and justice. Note, it includes free speech.

Is it not a fact that people were killed or instigated to be killed by the state then?

Re:UN council: Nations, stop switching off the internet by chimeracoder on Sunday July 03, 2016 @01:01PM (#12026685)
> Is it not a fact that people were killed or instigated to be killed by the state then?

That is not the claim I contested. Nor is it the statement you made, which was:

> [Modi] is well known to have massacred colleagues based on their beliefs/position

though it seems that you have now moved the goalposts to:

> We can never be certain about Modi's role in the massacre [because of a lack of free speech and democracy]

Re:UN council: Nations, stop switching off the internet by kiba on Sunday July 03, 2016 @12:57PM (#12026675)
A democracy is just a system of government where the population make choices, it does not automatically stand for freedom and justice, and why should it be?

It's best not to confuse the liberalism tradition of the west with democracy.