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Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by alansmitheebk on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:12PM (#12004858)
This is ridiculous. At some point we need to face up to the reality that most women in the US are just not interested in working in technology. There is no evil conspiracy to keep women out of tech. Maybe high school guidance counselors and parents don't encourage women to go into tech. Maybe there is someone to blame, but it's not the tech industry's fault.
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by balls187 on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:41PM (#12005044)
Strawman argument.

The article delved into whether or not there was systemic bias against women in tech interviews, given that interviewing.io's data showed that men continued onto next rounds 1.4x more often.

The conclusion based on the experiment, that it wasn't due to bias, but because women were more likely to not continue to refine their skills by continuing to interview.

> When you do meet the rare American born female developer she is either: A. a designer who realized that there are no design jobs so she became a front-end dev; B. a first-generation Asian-American (B/C Asian parents steer their children into STEM); or C. it's a woman with blue hair and a pierced face who is there to "shake up the patriarchy" and make a statement about gender.

This is a sexist comment (and borderline racist).

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by onion2k on Thursday June 30, 2016 @01:25AM (#12006753)
At some point we need to face up to the reality that most women in the US are just not interested in working in technology.

Let's assume for a moment that this is true. I'm not sure it is, but we'll go with it.

Software companies don't hire women who aren't interested in technology because those women don't apply for the job. The aim of ideas like the one in the article is to make the hiring process fairer by removing a gender bias from the pool of candidates who do apply. That's all. It doesn't imply that the candidate pool will change.

The point is that every equally qualified candidate in that pool should have the same chance of getting the job. Better candidate should have higher chances. Biases skew that probability downwards, so we should aim to remove them. Otherwise we aren't hiring the best people.

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by argonaut on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:40PM (#12005038)
Did you even read the article? Nowhere does the author blame the tech industry. In fact, at the end, she is basically claiming that women tend to have less self-esteem when it comes to evaluating their performance.
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by etjossem on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:48PM (#12005081)
I'd like you to read this.

https://medium.com/tech-diversity-files/if-you-think-women-i...

The gender gap in the workforce is wider than the gender gap in computer science as a major. Particularly at senior and management levels, we see a severe underrepresentation of women. To me, that suggests either a hiring bias or an attrition problem, not a pipeline problem.

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by tomp on Thursday June 30, 2016 @08:28AM (#12008013)
Mentioning senior/management levels is stupid. Obviously they will lag both the increase in the number of women studying CS in college and the decrease in sexism by employers. Wait 10-20 years, if the gap is still as wide as it is today, then it becomes a valid complaint.
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by hasenj on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @05:30PM (#12004982)
or D. A female who is not in the top 30% in terms of facial attractiveness (or is socially impaired for other reasons).
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by sdml on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @06:10PM (#12005187)
How critically are you judging the facial attractiveness and "social impairement" of male developers?

This is a completely useless comment, and exactly the sexist kind of attitude that drives women out of tech.

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by hasenj on Thursday June 30, 2016 @09:29AM (#12008336)
It's a mere observation. Not a comment of what should be the case.

And yea, the average male in the field tends to be the same.