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Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by NickM on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @08:36AM (#11993218)
> helium can easily be produced by nuclear reaction

I think you may need to rethink your use of the word "easily" there.

There are some good comments here, which explain why satisfying current demand for helium via fusion is nowhere near practical: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/12r2s7/helium_i...

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by dogma1138 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @08:49AM (#11993313)
Helium is also a product of nuclear decay/fission.

That's how we got the big stockpiles in the first place.

Helium is produced naturally in any radio isotope that undergoes alpha decay.

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by phkahler on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:21PM (#11995008)
>> Helium is produced naturally in any radio isotope that undergoes alpha decay.

Why not call it helium decay, since alpha particles are just helium nuclei? Or is this a case of "alpha particles" being named that before we knew what they are?

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by euyyn on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:34PM (#11995158)
Yes.

Beta decay is positrons, and gamma radiation is just light. Hence why we call the energetic end of the spectrum "gamma rays".

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by _kst_ on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:59PM (#11996501)
Beta decay is electrons.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by flubert on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:41PM (#11995233)
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by nikdaheratik on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @09:37PM (#12006041)
Because He nuclei are not the same as He atoms since they are not electrically neutral. Also, they generally have higher energy after being released from the larger Uranium or other atomic nucleus which causes them to behave differently from an He nucleus that wasn't released as an alpha particle. This all is important in terms of tracking what happens to subsequent decay reactions.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by valarauca1 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @01:10PM (#11995484)
Yes.

Alpha Decay is just a low mass form of cluster decay.

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by XorNot on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @10:33AM (#11994071)
No the big stockpile was paid for by cold war stockpiling, and it's cheap now because congress has mandated a sale of a huge quantity with no floor price consideration for that cost.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by ASalazarMX on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @11:38AM (#11994592)
What is this congress that imposes Helium prices worldwide?
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by smaddox on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:34PM (#11996271)
US Congress decided to sell off the US stockpile. Since they're selling lower than anyone else can produce, they're basically the only source. Therefore, they are the global supply and they are setting worldwide prices.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by witty_username on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @11:57AM (#11994789)
Grandparent comment means the US Congress, which does legislation.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by dogma1138 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @10:41AM (#11994144)
Yes that stockpile we got was mainly from US and later Russian cold era nuclear weapon production and research.

What's your point exactly?

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by jonas21 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @11:55AM (#11994771)
That's untrue. The stockpile comes from gas fields -- helium is mixed in with some natural gas deposits, and can be extracted from it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_production_in_the_Unite...

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by dogma1138 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:01PM (#11994827)
That's incorrect, you are confusing between Helium-4 and Helium-3.

The main source for Helium-3 which is the one we are in shortage of was and is the US nuclear weapons program primarily through the decay of tritium.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41419.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium#Helium-3_and_tritium

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by flubert on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:19PM (#11994996)
As near as I can tell, you are the only one discussing helium-3 and its shortage. Maybe everyone should be talking about helium-3, but unfortunately they are not. Suggestions?
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by URSpider94 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:59PM (#11996503)
No, there is actually a global shortage of Helium-4 as well.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by flubert on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @11:50AM (#11994717)
The Strategic Helium Reserve is a consequence of WWI and the desire to not be subject to shortages of Helium for lighter-than-air craft during wartime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Helium_Reserve

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by dogma1138 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:02PM (#11994843)
The strategic reserve is for Helium 4 primarily, were talking about Helium 3 which is a rare isotope of Helium.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by mikeash on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @11:35AM (#11994573)
Without knowing how the rate of production compares to the rate of depletion, this is meaningless. Oil is continuously produced by decaying life interacting with geological processes, but that doesn't matter when it's being used many orders of magnitude faster than that happens.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by dogma1138 on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:08PM (#11994891)
The main source for Helium 3 was an is the US nuclear weapons program, primarily the stockpiles of Tritium which produces 8000-10000 liters of Helium 3 each year.

The increased demand post 9/11 primarily by the federal government (He3 is used in neutron detectors) combined the reduction of the US weapons program caused a shortage.

Here is the FAS report from 2010, it's not the only report on the matter but it is very detailed. https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41419.pdf

Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by mikeash on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @12:23PM (#11995044)
Yeah, but Helium 3 is a totally different beast with different uses. Helium 4 is far more abundant and that's the one people are using to fill balloons and cool MRIs and purge lines and all the rest.
Re:Huge helium discovery 'a life-saving find' by myblake on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:05PM (#11996018)
I think we're talking about alpha decay gaining a few electrons here, not fusion.