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Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by noxToken on Monday June 27, 2016 @02:07PM (#11988070)
I have never had a Windows laptop boot up for scheduled updates. In that event, it always waitied for the next manual boot.
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by freehunter on Monday June 27, 2016 @02:17PM (#11988174)
Yeah, I haven't either, that's why I said "I'd love to see you try". You'd think the system would be smart enough to realize that it's literally never been awake at 3:30am.
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by morcheeba on Monday June 27, 2016 @06:40PM (#11990087)
The ACPI power spec allows the computer to set an alarm and have it woken up at a particular time... like 3:30am
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by TeMPOraL on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:38PM (#11989716)
I experience that constantly on any laptop I use because I pretty much never turn them off - they go to sleep mode when not used. Every now and then I find the laptop running with a clean desktop after logging in - because it decided to reboot and install updates somewhen during the night.

I've been an enemy of automated updates ever since, many years ago, I went to the kitchen to boil the water for a tea, and there suddenly I heard the PC speaker beeping - oh, Windows decided to count down from "5 minutes" and reboot.

Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by newjersey on Monday June 27, 2016 @10:43PM (#11991138)
I think automated updates are fine but require user's intervention to restart. Don't restart automatically on their behalf.
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by gpvos on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @02:55AM (#11991954)
They are not fine. For example, Outlook (on my work PC) tends to become non-functional when an update is pending.
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by newjersey on Tuesday June 28, 2016 @07:00AM (#11992730)
That's just P* poor quality and lack of care at Microsoft. When I think of automatic updates, I am thinking about automatic security updates on Ubuntu server. I'm sure canonical will screw things up at some point as well though.

I guess it is easy and tempting to say "just turn it off and on again" on consumer electronics and end user computers. :/

Why would an application become non-functional when an update is pending? Perhaps a critical security vulnerability?

Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by delecti on Monday June 27, 2016 @03:09PM (#11988623)
If the computer is sleeping it can wake up. Not sure about hibernate.
Re:Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Win... by cptskippy on Monday June 27, 2016 @05:05PM (#11989482)
It can't in hibernate because it's the state as shutdown. The deep sleep introduced in new versions of Windows might still be able to wakeup though.