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Re:New Cities by eldavido on Monday June 27, 2016 @01:31PM (#11987788)
Don't get too depressed; the value of real estate has been falling for 100 years relative to business equity and other productive assets, and most real estate assets are hugely leveraged today. I somewhat doubt a lot of the debt capital, which is optimized for relatively predictable payouts over long timeframes (with good reason -- this stuff funds pensions and universities) would shift to funding higher-productivity assets if given the chance.

Ultimately, you have to realize that not everyone in the world has the appetite for the kind of high-risk, high-return sort of lifestyle and pursuits that YC founders and partners do/did. A large swath of the population is content to earn their 2-3%/year on real estate, which when levered 3:1 or 4:1, gets up to 10-12%/year, which is a pretty good return in the world of non-VC/non-SV investing.

Source: Piketty's Capital in the 21st century

Re:New Cities by hx87 on Monday June 27, 2016 @02:26PM (#11988278)
Productive assets aren't necessarily high-risk, high-return though: that's what blue chips like IBM and GE are for, and they're far more predictable than, say, the Florida real estate market.
Re:New Cities by xapata on Monday June 27, 2016 @01:55PM (#11987977)
How do you calculate that return? Does that include the cost of capital?
Re:New Cities by cylinder on Monday June 27, 2016 @01:59PM (#11988016)
I also highly doubt it factors in the returns from tax incentives / rebates / deductions / exemptions.
Re:New Cities by eanzenberg on Monday June 27, 2016 @02:47PM (#11988449)
Gross returns is good to compare when everyone has different tax liabilities.