Re:UK votes to leave EU
by darawk on Friday June 24, 2016 @05:49PM
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> Whilst this 'indirect' initiative right does not
create an obligation on the Commission to
propose the legislation requested, the Treaty of
Lisbon codified the Commission's obligation to
provide reasons for any refusal to follow a
parliamentary initiative. Many argue in this
context that Parliament could take the
Commission to the Court of Justice of the EU if
it fails to justify a negative decision.
That's hardly the same thing as having the power to propose legislation on your own. All they are compelled to do is justify their refusal. Whether or not they have ever refused to do it in the past is also independent of who holds the actual power.
> (Also, I don't believe I argued in the article that the House Of Lords was the only part of the UK government. Obviously it is not.)
I didn't mean to imply that you did. My point is that the two roles seem to be reversed here, and that that is important. The EU parliament (democratic) holds roughly the power as the House of Lords (undemocratic), whereas the House of Commons (democratic) holds power equivalent to the European Commission (undemocratic). And that this makes the EU less of a democracy than the UK.
That's hardly the same thing as having the power to propose legislation on your own. All they are compelled to do is justify their refusal. Whether or not they have ever refused to do it in the past is also independent of who holds the actual power.
> (Also, I don't believe I argued in the article that the House Of Lords was the only part of the UK government. Obviously it is not.)
I didn't mean to imply that you did. My point is that the two roles seem to be reversed here, and that that is important. The EU parliament (democratic) holds roughly the power as the House of Lords (undemocratic), whereas the House of Commons (democratic) holds power equivalent to the European Commission (undemocratic). And that this makes the EU less of a democracy than the UK.