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Re:UK votes to leave EU by witty_username on Friday June 24, 2016 @05:50AM (#11968272)
How is it the greatest achievement? There are many other civilizations.
Re:UK votes to leave EU by cabalamat on Friday June 24, 2016 @10:20AM (#11969936)
Yes but only one of them invented computers, the internet, the steam engine, the internal combustion engine, the jet engine, the steam turbine, aircraft, modern medicine, anasthetic dentistry, etc.

If it wasn't for the West, humanity would still be mired in dirt, poverty and ignorance.

Re:UK votes to leave EU by Chinjut on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:04PM (#11971503)
Exactly how far would Europe have gotten with inventing those things if it hadn't built upon the numerous mathematical, scientific, and technological achievements of India, China, the Arab world, etc.? [Perhaps, counterfactually cut off from the rest of the world, Europe would've eventually rediscovered everything on their own anyway. Well, the same can be supposed in reverse, then...]

If the bulk of technological accomplishments of recent centuries were made in European and European-derived countries in recent centuries... well, that's because those happened to be the affluent regions of the times, the result of being the ones that colonized and ran roughshod over the rest of the world. But there's no reason to suppose non-white people were/are somehow intrinsically less capable of innovation.

Re:UK votes to leave EU by tremon on Friday June 24, 2016 @02:33PM (#11972245)
there's no reason to suppose non-white people were/are somehow intrinsically less capable of innovation.

The GP didn't say that they were.

Re:UK votes to leave EU by Chinjut on Friday June 24, 2016 @07:16PM (#11974224)
Not explicitly, but it is implied by what was said, particularly in context. European civilization invented all these great things and non-Europeans on their own would be mired in dirt and ignorance, therefore European civilization is humanity's greatest achievement, etc.
Re:UK votes to leave EU by tremon on Friday June 24, 2016 @07:55PM (#11974420)
Somehow I completely missed the GP's last sentence. I agree, that was unnecessary and likely untrue.
Re:UK votes to leave EU by Chinjut on Friday June 24, 2016 @07:22PM (#11974259)
"of recent centuries... in recent centuries"

Whoops! Redundancy it's too late to edit. Oh well...

Re:UK votes to leave EU by gsklee on Tuesday July 05, 2016 @11:26PM (#12041018)
This cocky attitude fuels racial discrimination and should be strongly condemned.

If you have some basic ideas about human history you should know that the Arab world helped preserve a great deal of classical knowledge from the Greek/Roman Era while the "Western Civilization" f*cked itself so hard in a cultural regressive "Dark Ages".

All human inventions are progressively built on past discoveries and you should be ashamed for only taking things at their face value.

Re:UK votes to leave EU by tiatia on Friday June 24, 2016 @10:48AM (#11970172)
Yes. But they are not all equal. If they are, cannibalism becomes a question of taste.