Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jonknee on Thursday June 23, 2016 @11:17AM
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Actually, for an IPO the stock price is very useful. It opened at $15 which was higher than the previously announced range of $12-14 and have shot up 70% in early trading. It's a great start for a tech IPO, hopefully this will encourage more companies to list.
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Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by MichaelApproved on Thursday June 23, 2016 @11:25AM
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> hopefully this will encourage more companies to list
hopefully this will encourage more VC's to fund.
Quick edit: not saying there isn't a lot of funding already happening but there's fear that VC might dry up. Hope it doesn't happen.
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jsprogrammer on Thursday June 23, 2016 @11:26AM
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Doesn't that mean the company missed out on about half its value?
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jklein11 on Thursday June 23, 2016 @01:13PM
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Eh thats kinda hard to say. Looking at the quoted price of a stock is a little bit misleading without looking at the Bid and Ask volumes.
Currently the bid of ~1000 shares are available at 24.97 (these number will vary second to second)
That doesn't mean that all of the shares IPOed could have been sold for that price.
Was there likely money left on the table? Yes. But its pretty difficult to put a dollar amount to it.
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by triangleman on Thursday June 23, 2016 @11:29AM
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Yep that's called money on the table.
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jonknee on Thursday June 23, 2016 @12:34PM
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Not really, they only sold a small percentage of the company in the initial offering.
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jsprogrammer on Thursday June 23, 2016 @12:41PM
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Still looks like ~$100,000,000 was missed.
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jonknee on Thursday June 23, 2016 @01:14PM
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The conventional logic is that you don't want to try picking up nickels in front of a steamroller by pricing your IPO too high and having it sag out of the gate. You want demand for the shares and then let the market price them. If Twilio had priced their shares at $24 they almost certainly wouldn't have sold them all and it would have been a really ugly IPO that resulted in a lower total market cap.
tl;dr sentiment is very important for IPOs
> sentiment is very important for IPOs
Who cares. Compare Twitter ("popping" IPO) vs. Facebook ("sagging" IPO).
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by whatok on Thursday June 23, 2016 @02:00PM
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I don't see the point in comparing the two but if you want to, Twitter had much better near-term post-IPO performance than Facebook did. We all know what happened after that. It's almost as if during a period where little fundamental information is available (post-IPO), something else must be driving trading (sentiment), while when more fundamental information is available (first earnings report), fundamental information plays more of a role.
Why would then companies want to cater to sentiment-driven investors?
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by whatok on Thursday June 23, 2016 @02:27PM
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How are investors supposed to value the company right now at this moment?
Re:Twilio opens trading at $23.99 per share
by jsprogrammer on Thursday June 23, 2016 @03:11PM
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By selling at $20, they would have picked up another $50 million.
Probably, GS and JPM got a lot it instead.