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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by partisan on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @10:36AM (#11954259)
I am not sure that Kotlin competes with Scala in any way. They are trying to remove the pain from Java by providing a concise and safe language (see the quotes from their website below). What are "all the things" they reinvented that were discard in Scala?

> Kotlin is a pragmatic programming language for JVM and Android that combines OO and functional features and is focused on interoperability, safety, clarity and tooling support.

> Being a general-purpose language, Kotlin works everywhere where Java works: server-side applications, mobile applications (Android), desktop applications.

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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by premium-concern on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @12:42PM (#11955224)
> What are "all the things" they reinvented that were discard in Scala?

Extension methods, properties, special syntax for everything, final by default, short constructor syntax, trying to put band-aid around Java's broken collection types, ...

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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by didip on Thursday June 23, 2016 @10:34AM (#11961149)
I'd love to learn more about Java's broken collection types. What's broken about them?
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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by premium-concern on Thursday June 23, 2016 @08:47PM (#11965438)
The pattern of throwing exceptions for operations deemed "unsupported", an API that requires massive workarounds to keep alive in Java 10, no support for immutable collections, unmodifiable views are a complete clusterfuck, no persistent collections etc.
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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by partisan on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @12:58PM (#11955353)
Thank you. I appreciate the list.
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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by ionforce on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @11:28AM (#11954677)
Kotlin competes with Scala in that they are both alternatives to Java.
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Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala by yawaramin on Thursday June 23, 2016 @09:54PM (#11965719)
Every single description of Kotlin in your comment could just as easily be describing Scala.
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