Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala
by nrinaudo on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @08:02AM
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My fear is that the feature sets diverge enough that we get two very similar but distinct languages and a split community.
I'm not afraid that the experiments have moved to Dotty. That's an ideal scenario, if successful ones are indeed ported to Scala. I'm just not convinced they will be.
Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala
by premium-concern on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @09:43AM
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The plan is to get the feature sets closer together, not to diverge.
Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala
by nrinaudo on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @09:50AM
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Absolutely. I'm saying I fear reality and theory might diverge and we find ourselves with a split language / community. I highly doubt anybody set out to write Python 3 thinking "it'll mess with the community for years to come, muhahaha".
Re:Dotty: a next generation compiler for Scala
by premium-concern on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @12:44PM
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Scala devs have the tools to make sure it doesn't happen, Python didn't.
Scala 2.12, the next version that's currently at milestone 4, is going to be a huge release, having a new backend, optimizations, Java 8 interop, improvements for the type system, refactorings, basically the real deal.
But Scala needs to be production quality and stable enough for real work TM. Like when they were pushing experiments in Scala, people were complaining that Scala breaks too often.
Apparently now people are afraid that the experiments have moved to Dotty. You can't please everybody.