Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by pg on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @02:58AM
(#119541)
I thought this was fascinating.
I know there have been a lot of new users lately, and a lot of us are concerned that the site will go downhill, but this is very interesting to me. I've never seen a more graphic demonstration of the huge size of the US economy.
To think, for example, that I grew up in fear of being nuked by New Jersey...
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by Dauntless on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @07:54AM
(#119628)
That's exactly why I would downvote this if I could. It's a misleading article that he stolen from someone else (because I've seen this many times on different blogs) and has tons of bogus data that no one checks.
About Russia: In 1987 the GDP was:
USA : 5,093,396
USSR: 1,965,457
P.S. nukes don't care about GDP.
P.P.S. In 2007 EU had a GDP of $16,574 trillion and USA: $13.794 trillion. So it would be easier to make a map the other way around.
It doesn't seem extremely inaccurate. I'd compare California with Italy, not France, and Texas with Brazil, not Canada. And Russia's economy is more New York than New Jersey.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by Dauntless on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @11:56AM
(#119783)
I don't know what is the original source... http://www.google.com/search?q=US+States+Renamed+For+Countri... I may have been too fast to judge that it isn't the original, because it's very popular and being just another blog didn't seem extremely accurate... I can't edit that out now anyway.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by DocSavage on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @03:15PM
(#119956)
I'm sorry, but the way a portion of the YCNews community has handled this news article really gets to me.
First, it's clear that a large number of people think the news item is relevant. See the upmods. The map shows a technique for data visualization. It also relates to economics, which many of us would like to learn more of.
Second, just because you think this article isn't YC-worthy, don't go downmodding everyone's comment on the map and upmodding every negative comment. If you're going to do that, have the spine to downmod pg's comment.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by jraines on Tuesday February 19, 2008 @10:29PM
(#119411)
While I agree, I'm surprised that there was more defense of the Castro post than this one. I know there are some fans of the visual display of quantitative information among us here . . .
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by rms on Tuesday February 19, 2008 @09:38PM
(#119385)
Usually I'm strongly in favor of things that fall outside the bounds of hackerism, but this is a little much.
Fidel Castro was fine though, it doesn't bother me to see truly major news make it here, even if I suspect many of us had already seen it on another site.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by imsteve on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @08:59AM
(#119665)
I'm sorry if you don't understand how this relates to startups. It does.
I know of very few founders who didn't move to a new place for their startup. Understanding how the qualities of a region affect the prosperity of its companies will aide you greatly when weighing the costs and benefits of moving for your startup and where to move to.
Prior to what I have learned through HN, I may have moved back to Europe without giving it a second thought. Pull your head out of the compiler for a minute to see how location will affect your hacking career.
Reddit content is funny pictures, useless politics, inflammatory youtube, and misleading headlines. This is none of those.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by DocSavage on Tuesday February 19, 2008 @09:00PM
(#119365)
This mapping surprised me:
"Tennessee – Saudi Arabia (GDP #25 at $286 billion)"
I probably magnify the oil economy in my mind. You hear about the vast wealth, the oil sheiks, the buying of US assets, etc. Either my intuition on relative economies is very off (likely)... or GDP doesn't cover some things that impact our perception. Wonder how that map would look if we used GDP per capita.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by gms on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @12:01AM
(#119441)
Re: vast wealth, just want to point out that there is a lot of poverty in Saudi Arabia that westerners don't realise, and that unemployment is estimated to be at 20% or so.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by Xichekolas on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @10:18AM
(#119719)
Maybe I should clarify... I meant that most of the oil income in SA is concentrated in the monarchy. I guess, as another comment pointed out, that oil income is only like 45% of GDP, but I still maintain that national income is much more concentrated in SA than it is in Tennessee, leading to the perception of untold riches of some and the reality of poverty for many. Tennessee doesn't have such concentration of wealth was my point.
Re:US States Renamed For Countries With Similar GDPs
by hobbs on Wednesday February 20, 2008 @11:46AM
(#119778)
It would be interesting to redo the map using GDP per square mile, or GDP per capita. For instance Georgia has the equivalent GDP of Switzerland, but it is much larger than Switzerland, geographically speaking. On the other hand, New Jersey has the same GDP as Russia, but is a fraction of the size, both geographically and in population.
I know there have been a lot of new users lately, and a lot of us are concerned that the site will go downhill, but this is very interesting to me. I've never seen a more graphic demonstration of the huge size of the US economy.
To think, for example, that I grew up in fear of being nuked by New Jersey...
About Russia: In 1987 the GDP was: USA : 5,093,396 USSR: 1,965,457
P.S. nukes don't care about GDP.
P.P.S. In 2007 EU had a GDP of $16,574 trillion and USA: $13.794 trillion. So it would be easier to make a map the other way around.
countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
us states: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_(nominal)
It doesn't seem extremely inaccurate. I'd compare California with Italy, not France, and Texas with Brazil, not Canada. And Russia's economy is more New York than New Jersey.
First, it's clear that a large number of people think the news item is relevant. See the upmods. The map shows a technique for data visualization. It also relates to economics, which many of us would like to learn more of.
Second, just because you think this article isn't YC-worthy, don't go downmodding everyone's comment on the map and upmodding every negative comment. If you're going to do that, have the spine to downmod pg's comment.
Fidel Castro was fine though, it doesn't bother me to see truly major news make it here, even if I suspect many of us had already seen it on another site.
I know of very few founders who didn't move to a new place for their startup. Understanding how the qualities of a region affect the prosperity of its companies will aide you greatly when weighing the costs and benefits of moving for your startup and where to move to.
Prior to what I have learned through HN, I may have moved back to Europe without giving it a second thought. Pull your head out of the compiler for a minute to see how location will affect your hacking career.
Reddit content is funny pictures, useless politics, inflammatory youtube, and misleading headlines. This is none of those.
I probably magnify the oil economy in my mind. You hear about the vast wealth, the oil sheiks, the buying of US assets, etc. Either my intuition on relative economies is very off (likely)... or GDP doesn't cover some things that impact our perception. Wonder how that map would look if we used GDP per capita.
Edit: Guess I was wrong.
"The petroleum sector accounts for roughly 75% of budget revenues, 45% of GDP, and 90% of export earnings."