Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by germanier on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:39AM
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Someone has to pay for the fraud and that's obviously getting to be the consumer in the end (indirectly through transaction cost).
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Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by forgotpwtomain on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:55PM
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Yes - but since the merchant is the one liable you can assume those costs are being passed down to you either way (key part being the contractual obligation visa/mastercard assert that prohibits the merchant from charging you more for using a credit card). Therefore in the meanwhile you can be covered for fraud and a) get your 1-2% back b) get airline miles - or c) none of the above. Seems like an obvious choice?
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by shaftway on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:29PM
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Fun fact: The contractual obligation says they can't charge you more for using a credit card. But it doesn't say they can't charge you less for using cash. This is how gas stations get around it. The gas is the higher price, but you get a 10 cent discount for using cash.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by CardFellow on Monday June 20, 2016 @03:33PM
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Merchants actually can charge more for credit card usage now. It's been permissible since a 2013 lawsuit, except in 9 states where it's prohibited by state law.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by tomc1985 on Friday June 17, 2016 @03:35PM
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Gas stations have a special loophole for that
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by germanier on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:04PM
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The point is that for the whole system it's beneficial to move to a more secure system with less fraud. For the individual user of course less so.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by CardFellow on Monday June 20, 2016 @03:33PM
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Visa and MasterCard have permitted surcharging for credit card use since 2013, as the result of a class action lawsuit.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by tostitos1979 on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:24PM
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I don't understand about the contractual requirement for no price differences. Gas stations do it everywhere ... a different price for cash vs cards.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by stonemetal on Friday June 17, 2016 @03:50PM
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It is an insane marketing speak thing. The contractual requirement isn't for no price differences. There may be a discount for using cash, but they can't word it as being charged more for using a card. The two might be equivalent in numerical terms, but it is the language that is important.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard
by forgotpwtomain on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:30PM
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Ah, Apologies there were some changes to this recently (2013) which had slipped my mind (they mostly don't affect New England due to state-based restrictions - which is probably why I'd forgotten):
https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/merchants/surcharge-c...