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Re:Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To ... by joe_the_user on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:09AM (#1192323)
"The United States of America is very quickly becoming a socialist welfare state."

The mindless stretching of the term socialism is getting a bit grating, you think?

Re:Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To ... by TomOfTTB on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:14AM (#1192404)
I don't think that's the author's fault. The truth is "Socialism" has always been ill defined. By the definition I was originally taught (a society where Government intervenes in the private industry to mitigate inequality) the U.S. has been socialist for my entire life time.

That said, you took that quote out of context. The real focus of it was on "welfare state" and it was presented with the fact that the Food Stamp program is adding 20,000 new people each day. If that's true than he's right about us quickly becoming a welfare state.

Re:Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To ... by WorkerBee on Monday March 15, 2010 @08:19AM (#1192746)
But even if you define "socialist welfare state" broadly, as "some of the left-ish countries in Eurpore that have a comprehensive social safety-net" (and purely by co-incidence to be sure, also are peaceful, democratic, affluent and have a high standard of living), then the US of A is not "very quickly becoming a socialist welfare state." Not even close.
Re:Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To ... by fnid2 on Monday March 15, 2010 @05:37AM (#1192560)
I think semantic arguments are getting old. You took one sentence off one slide out of 21 and have devalued the conversation to a complaint about the use of a word.

Do you have something substantive to say or some facts to dispute what the article said?

Re:Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To ... by joe_the_user on Monday March 15, 2010 @07:28PM (#1194417)
You can scan my profile to see the substance of my posts in general.

Whatever you may think of it, my "small" distinction post here has gotten a lot more karma than the long analyses I usually post.

The slide show altogether had little substance; a few interesting statistics, some standard rhetoric and a come-on for a product.

Still, the craven misuse of the term "socialist" is doing more than a little damage to the body politic. If Obama was a socialist trying to change the nature of American society, that would worth debating. But he isn't, so the repetition of such a claim works according to the "big lie principle" (ironically articulated by Joseph Stalin) - if you take a simple falsehood, even one the most informed people know is false, and repeat it enough times, you get can serious traction. This method of operating is worth noting and so this "semantic" distinction is important to make.