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Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by boto3 on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:20AM (#11923142)
Why don'd Facebook, Google and potentially MS, Apple, etc. set up a yearly tournament for the world title of 'Champion of Go'. This is similar to F1 races by the car manufacturers.
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by gjm11 on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:40AM (#11923278)
Taking your question at face value (why don't they?): Because right now, so far as I can tell, Google is so far ahead that there would be little interest in the contest.

Perhaps Facebook will start to catch up, or Microsoft will suddenly appear with something startling, but for the moment the only real competition for AlphaGo comes from top human players. (Perhaps not even them? I don't think anyone really knows.)

Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by duaneb on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:22PM (#11924007)
> Google is so far ahead that there would be little interest in the contest.

Sounds like EXACTLY the motivation a contest would help to foster.

Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by mtgx on Friday June 17, 2016 @03:31PM (#11925016)
I think he's saying that, right now, both other companies would expect to be crushed in such a competition, so why would they not spare themselves the embarrassment?

And because we're doing silly memes, to accept the challenge, Microsoft and Facebook would probably have to go into the competition with this kind of attitude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYg4ZbcOPQ

Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by kibwen on Friday June 17, 2016 @03:48PM (#11925127)
Go has a few interesting properties that make it an appealing target for AI researchers (perfect information, no randomness, an abundance of highly-trained human players to benchmark against), but if you were trying to devise an AI-vs-AI tournament you would probably concoct a more difficult challenge (or use one of the human games that AIs still have problems with, like no-limit Texas Hold'em, or the board game Diplomacy).
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by osti on Friday June 17, 2016 @08:57PM (#11926477)
There is already a computer NL hold'em tournament out there, which can be found here, http://www.computerpokercompetition.org
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by VeejayRampay on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:13PM (#11923494)
I thought about that too. But then I realized that Google are better than anyone else at this for now.
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by ma2rten on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:43AM (#11923292)
I think the expectation is that they move on to the next challenging problem eventually.
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by laxatives on Friday June 17, 2016 @09:11PM (#11926519)
It would still be interesting if they only did it in the short term, say 2-3 years.
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by farresito on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:41AM (#11923281)
Would those companies have any interest in publishing all their research if it gets to the point where it actually means something winning this tournament?
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by atonse on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:06PM (#11923446)
Sure why not? There isn't any competitive advantage in the AI model for beating this game – there's probably tangential knowledge and experience gained.

Maybe someone can clarify but it doesn't seem like hoarding this model (specific to playing Go) would help Google have an advantage in their search algorithms over Facebook, for example.

Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by 1138 on Friday June 17, 2016 @06:03PM (#11925828)
If they did, they should allow humans and limit the amount of energy used during the matches, like calories in a tuna sandwich.
Re:DarkForest: Deep learning engine for playing Go from Face... by devsquid on Friday June 17, 2016 @02:03PM (#11924357)
Thats such a cool idea! OMFG