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Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by DennisP on Friday June 17, 2016 @11:10AM (#11923069)
In this particular case the contract holds 15% of all ether.

The fork won't be enacted unless a majority of the community agrees to run its code. That's not likely to happen except in extreme cases, like this one.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by infodroid on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:28PM (#11923600)
I don't think such a scenario is entirely neutral.

Because it implies that some contracts will have a greater probability of being "bailed out" if they are backed by more ether.

It may turn out to be a bad thing because it will establish the idea that not all Ethereum contracts are created equal.

And this can lead the system to be more centralized.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by drewm1980 on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:16PM (#11925282)
Is 15% really that extreme? This is a game; nothing of real value in the world is being created or destroyed (that wasn't already during mining). I personally hope the ethereum community decides to play this game out and not bail out the DAO. It's way too early in the social experiment to change the rules.
Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by DennisP on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:38PM (#11925402)
Lots of people have traded serious amounts of real money for those game tokens.
Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by CoryG89 on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:47PM (#11925445)
I agree that 15% may not be that extreme, but 15% is not all that's at stake. 100% of all ether existing has so far lost 20% of its value (relative to other currencies at the time of the article's writing). I wouldn't be surprised if it continued to drop further. This may cause enough panic among miners to actually get a majority to agree to a hard fork.

Edit: for the record, I don't own use Ethereum or own any ether, so I would also hope that a hard fork doesn't happen to bail out a single contract, but I have no financial incentive on the line.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by arghnoname on Friday June 17, 2016 @01:31PM (#11924091)
In other words, this contract is too big to fail?
Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by lazaroclapp on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:22PM (#11925307)
Perhaps, but:

a) It is being bailed out by referendum, not mandate. Everyone gets a vote, if you don't want to install the patch, don't do it.

b) The funds to bail it out are those stolen by the attacker. Nobody is asking people without DAO tokens to suddenly contribute their ether to restoring the DAO or take debt.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by jjnoakes on Friday June 17, 2016 @07:01PM (#11926058)
Is there really an attacker and stolen funds though?

I mean, the contract executed exactly as specified.

If the system was well designed, there would be no way to undo the results. Such a system may never exist, but the fact that ethereum can sometimes change contract results means it isn't living up to its ideals.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by CoryG89 on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:52PM (#11925477)
I disagree in part with (b). A hard fork could split the community and cause the price of ether to crash further. While miners who fork may not actually lose ether in the process, they may actively cause it to lose whatever value it has left.

Of course, miners not associated with the DAO would never normally consider risking such a thing, but the rapidly falling price of their ether may convince them that it's the safest move.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by akhilcacharya on Friday June 17, 2016 @06:04PM (#11925838)
1) TARP arguably had a referendum immediately afterward in the form of the election.

2) The American people were paid back.

Re:Critical Update on DAO Vulnerability by riprowan on Friday June 17, 2016 @12:02PM (#11923421)
Exactly. This is being pitched as a negative, when really, consensus-based changes are probably always for the best.