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Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by jacquesm on Thursday June 16, 2016 @05:07AM (#11914906)
> On modern systems it's will just poweroff every 30 minutes if ME firmware not present

That's highly suggestive of a hidden agenda.

Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by kuschku on Thursday June 16, 2016 @09:06AM (#11915804)
You can still turn ME into "manufacturing test mode", where it will not execute things.

But in that mode Intel Network Cards will poweroff every 3 minutes.

I wondered why my I219-V didn’t work, until I found it worked with ME in normal mode.

Now I’m back on a 2006 100M Realtek NIC

Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by etatoby on Thursday June 16, 2016 @03:09PM (#11918182)
> in that mode Intel Network Cards will poweroff every 3 minutes

This is ridiculous. This is not a rootkit waiting to happen, it's already an operational rootkit!

What is this company trying to achieve? Is this a military asset designed to attack foreign countries? Is the Cold War not over?

Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by kuschku on Thursday June 16, 2016 @05:13PM (#11918905)
And, even worse, why is there not yet a startup competing with Intel in the desktop market?

Are fabs the issues? Knowledge? Engineers? I mean, Uber got many billions in funding, with Ubers funding one could build easily a fab for 14nm process and hire all of AMD.

Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by nitrogen on Thursday June 16, 2016 @01:29PM (#11917571)
Will it also shut down add-in cards in a PCIe slot?
Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by kuschku on Thursday June 16, 2016 @01:48PM (#11917695)
Nope, that’s why my 2006 Realtek card works.
Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by nitrogen on Thursday June 16, 2016 @07:30PM (#11919751)
I guess I should have specified Intel add-on cards, but it's easy enough to buy non-Intel.
Re:The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't ... by etatoby on Thursday June 16, 2016 @03:04PM (#11918153)
Yes. What on earth would be the non-malicious purpose of this feature?