Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables

Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by jerf on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @02:06PM (#11903989)

Oh, that's just ridiculous. You can't count 27 years of lawsuits in the "real" cost of building a plant, if people actually wanted to. If we were going to start building lots of plants, there's been plenty of proposals to standardize the designs.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by nickbauman on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @03:01PM (#11904433)

This is in the opinion of Janice Dunn Lee. I think she knows what she's talking about.

https://www.iaea.org/about/leadership/janice-dunn-lee

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by arama471 on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @03:43PM (#11904744)

Can you link to a source where she says that and not just her bio page? Googling this for me yielded no results which contained supporting evidence for you, but that may just be bad searching on my part.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by nickbauman on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @07:13PM (#11906112)

I heard her speak on the radio regarding low-carbon energy solutions. I'm trying to locate the program online.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by nickbauman on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @03:09PM (#11904499)

The last nuke plant built in America, Watts-Barr, took only 43 years. It cost $6.1 billion. So I guess the bar to improve is quite low. Good luck.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by jerf on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @08:18PM (#11906407)

Yes, and every new nuclear plant has to be mothballed for decades as a vital element to its construction. It's so the concrete can cure properly, right?

You're going beyond advocacy into sheer lunacy. Nuclear power plants do not take longer to build than the WWI, WWII (including incidentally the entire Manhattan project), and the Korean, Vietnemese, Iraqi, and Afghanistan wars combined. And I could probably jam some more things in there, since I'm not really looking up the time frames and just eyeballing it... because that's how stupid your claim is.

I don't know whether to hope that you realize the degree of BS you're spouting and that you're being deliberately mendacious, or to hope that you actually believe it and are at least being honest to what you think about the world.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by manicdee on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @11:47PM (#11907071)

It is sad to see that nuclear advocacy has simply become telling people they or their ideas are stupid because they point out the political reality of the world.

It doesn't matter that it takes far less than 49 years to actually construct the physical manifestation of a nuclear power plant.

What matters is why it took so long to build.

You can't solve those problems by insulting people.

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Re:Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables by adrianratnapala on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @01:27AM (#11907311)

This is circular. You are saying that we should have policy B, partly because A is too expensive. Why is A too expensive? Because of policiy B!

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