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Re:Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B by Karunamon on Monday June 13, 2016 @11:44AM (#11894765)
I certainly wouldn't call it "spyware"

Do you have a better term for code that does user-unwanted tracking of their behavior, on any level, which hides itself from view, is difficult (in many cases impossible) to disable, and resists the will of the user when they try things like hosts file filtering?

The only difference between 3rd party spyware and Microsoft spyware is the stated intention of the author. Oh, and the former generally being easier to remove.

Somehow, we improved OSes and UIs before this kind of always on bullshit was commonly accepted. And I see it as a negative besides, it means that any "improvements" are always going to be pointed at the lowest common denominator, which has a habit of leaving power users out in the cold.

Re:Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B by scholia on Monday June 13, 2016 @01:15PM (#11895502)
> it means that any "improvements" are always going to be pointed at the lowest common denominator, which has a habit of leaving power users out in the cold.

Power users usually remove any influence they might have by opting out of telemetry....

On the other hand, most people on the Windows Insider rings are technically adept, so maybe that balances out.

Of course, the Insider builds have a lot more telemetry....

> Somehow, we improved OSes and UIs before this kind of always on bullshit was commonly accepted.

Everything you do that involves Google (or Facebook etc) provides complete telemetry and those products are continuously updated whether you like it or not.

Now Microsoft has stopped developing stuff on a three-year cycle and switched to 6 months or less. (So you won't have to do any more Big Bang upgrades that take 18 months to plan and 18 months to implement, leaving you permanently behind.)

Either way, it probably makes sense to do more or less continuous OS updates when the OS is integrated with apps and online services (Outlook.com, OneDrive, Office 365 etc).

Re:Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B by partiallypro on Monday June 13, 2016 @11:50AM (#11894821)
So iOS and Android are spyware? Apps that collect telemetry are spyware? Where do you draw the line?
Re:Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B by Karunamon on Monday June 13, 2016 @11:53AM (#11894856)
I'm not sure what your point is. If the problem is that most of our OSes now contain spyware, by any objective definition of the word, that is an accurate statement.

I "draw the line" at the definition I gave in the previous post. Where's the off switch?