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Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by wmeredith on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:09PM (#11881643)
> If and when we end the drug war there will be more junkies, more crack whores, more people who sit around staring at the wall instead of working and raising families, more people in the ERs from overdoses and drug-fueled mental breakdowns.

You're dead wrong. And unless you intend malice you need to stop spreading this BS. Portugal legalized ALL drugs and a decade later they saw abuse fall by 50%. Source: http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/drug-decriminal...

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by rayiner on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:57PM (#11881796)
You're spreading BS too. Portugal did not legalize all drugs. They decriminalized personal use. But trafficking drugs is still illegal.

But almost all U.S. DEA prosecution is over trafficking, not possession. So decriminalization wouldn't get rid of it.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by dcacaac on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:43PM (#11881751)
I agree with you, but just to be clear, Portugal decriminalized all drugs.
Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by gozur88 on Friday June 10, 2016 @11:22PM (#11881872)
No, I'm not wrong, and you can stop spreading this sort of nonsense any time. Do you honestly think Drugs are illegal in every country in the world because people other than you are stupid?
Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by teslabox on Friday June 10, 2016 @11:50PM (#11881956)
Johann Hari wrote an excellent book [1] about how the bad plants came to be demonized and persecuted. Yes, Cocaine and heroin cause problems for people, but does that justify turning addicts' supply chains over to organized crime? Would it not be better to make sure that people who've decided to use the bad plants at least get what they're paying for?

[1] http://www.chasingthescream.com/

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by rosser on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:19AM (#11882038)
Portugal.

When they decriminalized all drugs of abuse, they saw an initial, mild spike in usage rates, and now consistently see far lower rates of drug abuse, for all drugs than pretty much every other country.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by gozur88 on Saturday June 11, 2016 @03:05AM (#11882432)
No, not Portugal. In case you missed Rayiner's comment above - they still arrest dealers in Portugal.
Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by rosser on Saturday June 11, 2016 @02:12PM (#11884549)
This is called "moving the goalpost". First you're talking about "junkies" and "crack whores", and when you get shot down on that, you move to talking about dealers.

Pick a position, and argue it; when you're proven wrong, accept it and learn.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by gozur88 on Saturday June 11, 2016 @02:54PM (#11884762)
Maybe I should just declare victory and start trying to divide the spoils like you're fond of doing?

The point under discussion is the abolition of the DEA, meaning legalization of drugs. The DEA doesn't spend a lot of time running down drug users - this is about dealers.

Don't assume other people are moving goalposts because you didn't understand where they were to start with.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by DanBC on Saturday June 11, 2016 @07:09AM (#11883028)
They also provide plenty of support for drug users.

I'm not sure the same would be true in the US, seeing the piss-poor state of mental health treatment in the US.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by rosser on Saturday June 11, 2016 @02:13PM (#11884558)
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. That's, to my mind, one of the best aspects of Portugal's system: they treat drug abuse as a medical problem, and offer free treatment.

In the US, offering treatment like that would probably be decried as welfare-state redistributory nonsense.

Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by llamataboot on Friday June 10, 2016 @11:26PM (#11881890)
Please provide your sources.
Re:DEA Wants Inside Medical Records to Fight the War on Drugs by gozur88 on Saturday June 11, 2016 @03:05AM (#11882433)
Please provide yours.