Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by lmm on Thursday June 09, 2016 @11:16AM
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No-one was forced to migrate to GCC or bash, and they render systems unbootable a lot less often than Pottering does.
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by rbanffy on Thursday June 09, 2016 @04:02PM
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No one is forced to anything. If you don't like systemd you are free to use whatever you are able to maintain yourself or pay someone else to do so.
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by teacup50 on Thursday June 09, 2016 @06:37PM
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systemd is quintessential "embrace, extend, and extinguish".
If you don't like the word "force", we can use "coerce" instead.
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by rbanffy on Friday June 10, 2016 @05:56AM
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Here, so nobody can force you to use systemd: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by dijit on Friday June 10, 2016 @09:03AM
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Reasonably we can conclude that we are in fact forced to use systemd.
if you want to use a modern production ready distro for servers you cannot look further than: ubuntu, debian, RHEL/CentOS, and probably SuSE (although declining).
If you're an american company you're very likely using CentOS already and if you're a European company you're very likely using debian already, and there is little wiggle room there.
So, yes, my standards body ensures that systemd is inflicted on my systems and it's a lot more hassle to move away from debian right now than to embrace systemd for all it's warts.
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by digi_owl on Friday June 10, 2016 @02:51PM
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"nice distro you have there, shame if something was to happen to it..."
Re:FreeBSD 10.3 officially supported on Microsoft Azure
by digi_owl on Friday June 10, 2016 @02:30PM
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That "death threat" was a bad joke made on a IRC channel after hours, after several on the channel had spent the day trying to debug some issues caused by changes in the most recent systemd release at the time.
On top of that he is a loudmouth and head of a controversial project, that is basically a big neon sign these days for attracting the "gamergate" hive.
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of systemd, but serious death threats aren't the fix.