Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by mindslight on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @08:00PM
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Yes, I don't disagree with what you've just said. But as I've been saying there is more to freedom of speech than what is possible to guarantee legally. For instance, there is definitely a lack of freedom of speech on twitter/facebook/etc. This does not automatically imply that they should be forced to carry disagreeable content or that their service should be nationalized. In this case, my statement is meant to encourage people to seek out Freer software.
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> For instance, there is definitely a lack of freedom of speech on twitter/facebook/etc.
I do not agree, Facebook is displaying the speech they choose to display and this is their exercise of their freedom of speech on their website. Same for twitter. Users have no right/reason to expect they can say anything on these private properties.
> In this case, my statement is meant to encourage people to seek out Freer software.
We agree on that.
Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by mindslight on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @09:21PM
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So we're really just arguing over whether the term is a singular and specific, or can be a more general concept. To me, including nonidentical behavior that has similar effects on society is the better choice.
Furthermore, the actual text of the first amendment does not define freedom of speech, but explicitly references it as an external concept.