> In order to discover places where we currently are wrong, we need to be tolerant of people expressing dissenting points of view.
I agree, but I distinguish between tolerance & acceptance. Tolerance means you do your thing & I do my thing; acceptance means we do the same thing. The problem is, if we each have opposing ideas of the good then we can't accept one another's ideas. Acceptance of opposing ideas can only really work by pretending that the ideas themselves don't matter, but tolerance can respect the importance of the ideas themselves while agreeing to disagree.
Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by yummyfajitas on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @11:20AM
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I'm not suggesting you should accept my ideas that you believe are wrong.
I'm suggesting that you should prove yourself correct rather than simply making me afraid to speak. If your ideas are correct, why is that so difficult?
Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by isleyaardvark on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @12:13PM
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You haven't reached epistemic closure on racism? Donald Sterling's comments: "It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people", and, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want", but "the little I ask you is ... not to bring them to my games" - you haven't reached epistemic closure on that?
Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by isleyaardvark on Thursday June 09, 2016 @12:07PM
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The downvotes are particularly hypocritical and self-serving. I guess tolerance of "of people expressing dissenting points of view" has particular requirements.
Re:Freedom of speech is in retreat
by isleyaardvark on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @01:38PM
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I guess I'll take that as a "no".
Yes.
I haven't reached epistemic closure. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/books/28conserv.html?_r=1 if you are unfamiliar.) I believe we may be incorrect about a variety of things we currently believe - we have not yet reached the pinnacle of human knowledge.
In order to discover places where we currently are wrong, we need to be tolerant of people expressing dissenting points of view. For this purpose, preventing a (possibly correct) dissenting view from being expressed via social ostracism is just as harmful as preventing it via force of arms.