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Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @09:52AM (#11854483)
My brother and sister-in-law were being driven to the airport to come home (to Cupertino) by his Father-in-law, at 2 in the morning. He drove at high speed, ignoring traffic lights and signs. They were alarmed; he was unconcerned. "Nobody is about this time in the night; we're perfectly safe!" So there's some kind of mass insanity going on in India for sure.
Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by moyok on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @11:14AM (#11855031)
This used to happen to me every time I had to go to the airport in the night, and would book some local taxi to do that. The drivers just never cared about the traffic signals in the night.

The prevalent attitude seems to be that traffic rules are more like guidelines and can be broken if it seems "okay" to do so. Driving on the wrong side of the road is for example quite common, and most people do it to avoid making a long U-turn. Someone who I knew was driving a car and had a head on collision with a scooter travelling the wrong way on a highway, and the scooter had three passengers on board it (it's called "tripling" and is also pretty common). Sometimes you get to see cars reversing on highways with fast moving traffic, because they missed a turn and wanted to go back.

Things could probably get better in the future though. In New Delhi, for example - according to a new law, if you are caught in a traffic violation (such as ignoring a traffic signal), you lose your license along with the right to drive for three months. I saw somebody's status on Facebook that this happened to them, so it's not just an empty threat too.

Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by asib on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @11:36AM (#11855180)
When I was in Vietnam & Indonesia, I regularly saw people driving on the wrong side of the road. Luckily, they would generally drive just off the road, so traffic on the road wouldn't be at risk of a collision. It was also similarly common to see entire families riding on one scooter - I regularly saw families of 4 riding together.
Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by lucio on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @12:10PM (#11855432)
If you're "driving" (a scooter?) just off the road, or walking alongside a road, it is better to doit counter-traffic so you can see the traffic comming.

If you switch sides, the traffic will aproach from your back, and that's a lot more dangerous.

Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by parennoob on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @10:07AM (#11854586)
This is the kind of low-effort, off-the-cuff pronouncement that I hate seeing on here. Because an Indian (presumably) you knew was driving in an unsafe manner, you can directly make pronouncements about "mass insanity" about a country of a billion people?

Mind you, I'm not saying Indians are safe drivers. Indian driving, I freely admit, is spectacularly unsafe and makes me worried. There are a host of factors that cause this unsafe driving, including:

- Roads built for way smaller cars

- The sudden liberalization of the economy in the 90s leading to way more vehicles than the roads were designed for

- A lot of people owning a vehicle, and having social expectations from them about automatically knowing how to drive (I'm not kidding, and we're talking stick shift here)

- Traffic policemen numbers from the middle of the last century

- Mushrooming urbanization and the resultant low level of trust among urban populations

...but "some kind of mass insanity is going on in India because my brother's Indian father-in-law ran a bunch of red lights at 2am" is ridiculous.

Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @10:12AM (#11854629)
Sorry to hit your hot button! That was meant kindly. But I see your point. And thanks for fleshing out the argument - certainly there is something desperately wrong with the Indian road situation.
Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by ansible on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @10:46AM (#11854836)
Frankly, it is not just India, but, well, most of the hemisphere. Traffic is nuts, and drivers are nuts across most of the area (China, India, SE Asia, Russia), except for maybe Japan.

Its not a race thing, but maybe it is a culture thing. We certainly have our share of asshole drivers in the USA, but it doesn't at all compare to what I've seen elsewhere, in terms of quantity / quality.

Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by tunap on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @11:14AM (#11855032)
In Mexico cities(Mazatlan & Pueto Penasco) a red light only means 'avoid collision with cross traffic' with no obligation to stop or slow if you don't have to.
Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by parennoob on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @02:38PM (#11856670)
> Sorry to hit your hot button! That was meant kindly.

The apology is meaningless; this has nothing to do with buttons. I merely pointed out a generalization based on an random anecdote, based on no real experience of the situation. Acknowledging it as such would help.

Re:If no-one helps you after a car crash in India, this is why by tunap on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @11:12AM (#11855020)
My father does that, and worse, here in the States. I worry about his welfare and will no longer ride in a car if he's driving.