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Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:11PM (#11850428)
>Google indexes both legal and illegal content, and the same goes for TPB.

The difference is that the DMCA says it's okay as long as you take it down when you get a DMCA notice, which Google, but not TPB, does.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by hansjorg on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:38PM (#11850624)
Without taking sides regarding the original issue, it's incredible how many people consider US law as universal law without any further thought.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:48PM (#11850691)
When TPB claims to be DMCA-compliant, that's what we're judging them on.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by abritinthebay on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:17PM (#11850901)
Given that TPB doesn't actually host any content that could be taken down by a DMCA notice - they are DMCA compliant.

Their response to "take down links to this hash" is "you don't own that hash" which is true.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:22PM (#11850932)
>Given that TPB doesn't actually host any content that could be taken down by a DMCA notice

Which has not been established by any precedent yet, as far as I've been able to tell.

>Their response to "take down links to this hash" is "you don't own that hash" which is true.

That's not the responses they've given before. (see http://beebulletin.com/hilarious-pirate-bay-legal-responses/)

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by abritinthebay on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @03:00AM (#11852866)
The legal precedent is the DMCA itself - it can't be used against things the person doesn't have copyright over. It's quite specific actually.

Those hashes are not what they have ownership of.

Now if you meant hat they want to expand that law... well yes, but that's different.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @06:35AM (#11853540)
Claiming that your untested interpretation of the law says something does not make precedent. This particular argument hasn't yet made it to court, but torrent cases have, and torrents are basically just more detailed hashes of each section of a file. Your argument would imply that torrent files are also legal, and yet Isohunt and others have lost in court over them.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by hansjorg on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:13PM (#11850873)
The DMCA is completely irrelevant in their case, no matter what anybody claims, as they're not based in the US.

I realize that the idea that something is out of reach of US supremacy is a tough pill to swallow for some kinds of people, but come on.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:19PM (#11850914)
First of all, it can be relevant if the provider of the domain is subject to US laws. But right now it's relevant because TPB claimed to be DMCA-compliant. Whether or not they legally have to be compliant is not relevant to whether they are compliant.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by hansjorg on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:32PM (#11851003)
> it's relevant because TPB claimed to be DMCA-compliant

What they claim is irrelevant.

Do you really think the DMCA embodies some universal moral code? That's the only way what you're saying would make any sense.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:39PM (#11851052)
I'm claiming that TPB is lying. I'm not sure why that would be irrelevant.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by hansjorg on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:59PM (#11851182)
I don't care about that, I was only replying to your implicit statement that US law somehow should apply universally.

I'm not sure you even understand why someone would object to this, so I don't think we need to discuss this any further.

Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by ikeboy on Monday June 06, 2016 @07:12PM (#11851254)
I never made such a statement, and don't believe it.
Re:RIAA to .ORG Registry: Take down ThePirateBay by lugg on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:01PM (#11851474)
Considering they're not in the US they are DMCA-compliant no? Compliant as far as compliance is required for non US states..