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Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by pmlnr on Monday June 06, 2016 @07:51AM (#11846042)
Your comment sounds like preaching.

> when disks were mechanical

DISKS are STILL mechanical. They will always be. That is why it's called a disk. You thinking is limited to fancy laptops and not considering enterprise servers.

> If we never replace things with better things

Better? That is far too strong. Things are not always better but making certain use cases easier. That does not mean it's better. Systemd has nice features, indeed; but it's also limiting in terms of losing the capabilities of full blown shell script. Sometimes this latter is very handy.

Edit: Downvote? Nice. Try commenting instead.

Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by vidarh on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:51AM (#11846367)
> You thinking is limited to fancy laptops and not considering enterprise servers.

All of the servers I manage except for a few legacy ones are SSDs by now, for the simple reason that they are cheaper to operate at this point:

They consume less energy, and while their price per GB is high, their IOPS per GB is high enough that we can get away with far fewer replicas of each item of data and still get good enough performance.

I can't afford not to use SSDs in every new server we provision.

Not using SSDs in your servers today means you're behind the curve except in certain niches where performance doesn't matter but sheer storage volume does. That too is set to change within the next couple of years with current rates of cost reductions.

Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by jacquesm on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:17AM (#11846188)
No downvote from me but spinning disks are on the way out, all across the board including enterprise servers. It will take a while but they will definitely not 'always be' around. See also: vinyl records. They still exist but mainstream has moved on.
Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by pmlnr on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:35AM (#11846277)
Disks are still present. They are way cheaper, so especially under big data, they are still irreplaceable.
Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by jacquesm on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:40AM (#11846307)
For now. Making unqualified statements about the future is where the problem lies. In the long run, silicon will win over spinning rust and 'the long run' seems to be a lot shorter than we previously thought.
Re:Sad news today: systemd-resolved to be deployed in Ubuntu... by vidarh on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:54AM (#11846390)
Disks are more expensive for most server use today than SSDs. You can't just look at cost per GB. You need to look at cost to process per GB, and then the vastly increased IOPS and transfer rates provided by SSDs makes them cheaper for most applications where data is regularly accessed at this point.

There are niches, such as long term archival, backups, etc. where disks may still be competitive, but even those are rapidly being eroded.

For things like web servers or database servers, I'll never provision another machine without SSDs.