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Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by dharmon on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:38AM (#11836684)
I am curious to see how a16z's investment results eventually pan out. I don't believe any of their funds have gone through a full cycle, nor have they experienced a down market, so its still too early to declare him a top dawg.

His "twitter schools" parrot things like Buffett's shareholder letters pretty closely ("When the tide goes out, we find out who's been swimming naked."), so at least at an intellectual level he gets it, but his investment behavior contrasts this strongly, where he seems willing to pay any price for growth. Unfortunately this is common in the investment world, where everyone is a value investor in words, but rarely in behavior.

I guess I am mostly interested to see how the "founder as rockstar" thesis that is central to a16z works in practice.

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by w1ntermute on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:47AM (#11836721)
> I am curious to see how a16z's investment results eventually pan out. I don't believe any of their funds have gone through a full cycle, nor have they experienced a down market, so its still too early to declare him a top dawg.

And the only reason they've been able to reach $4B in AUM so quickly is because record-low interest rates and stagnating growth in the developing world have created a rush of capital to Silicon Valley looking for any semblance of alpha.

The real question we should be asking is what sector of the economy all this roving capital will target next, when it becomes clear that tech startups can't live up to the promises of the VCs.

> I guess I am mostly interested to see how the "founder as rockstar" thesis that is central to a16z works in practice.

That's just a sales message used to get gullible and desperate founders to take money from them without giving it a second thought. When things go south, like they did for Zenefits (YC W13), a16z won't be so nice anymore:

> On Feb. 1, Zenefits held an emergency board meeting. The licensing problems and the macro were discussed. [a16z partner] Dalgaard suggested to Conrad that, as the person who created the program, he needed to leave.[0]

0: http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-zenefits/

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by mathattack on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:53AM (#11836747)
That's a little more than things going Southz. That's fraud.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by w1ntermute on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:58AM (#11836764)
I'm talking about might, not right. Half of Wall Street was committing fraud in the years leading up to the financial crisis, and it was a hell of a lot worse than anything Conrad did. How many of them have been held accountable the way he was? From that perspective, who are the real "rockstars"?
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by te0x on Saturday June 04, 2016 @03:53PM (#11837698)
Yeah but no one is using Wall St as a benchmark for accountability. You're going to call them out for ousting a founder that encouraged fraud?
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by w1ntermute on Saturday June 04, 2016 @09:17PM (#11839161)
No, I'm calling them out for falsely marketing themselves as pro-founder.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by tasteup on Saturday June 04, 2016 @09:48PM (#11839239)
Pro-founder does not mean they drop all standards and expectations. I'm not familiar with their entire portfolio, but using the Zenefits case (where the founder is accused of fraud) is a poor argument to support your claim that they are not pro-founder.

I'm not saying they are or aren't profounder. I just think Zenefits is not a good example to use to make sweeping accusations about the firm.

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by mathattack on Sunday June 05, 2016 @12:35AM (#11839641)
You can be pro-founder and still toss frauds out of office. This is a spectrum and a16z appears to be more founder friendly than 90s era VCs who were more likely to be ex-bankers and quicker to replace founders.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by _pius on Saturday June 04, 2016 @02:04PM (#11837252)
I am curious to see how a16z's investment results eventually pan out. I don't believe any of their funds have gone through a full cycle, nor have they experienced a down market, so its still too early to declare him a top dawg.

They returned their first fund twice over ... in three years.

http://fortune.com/2012/07/24/nice-ira-andreessen-horowitz-r...

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by foobarqux on Saturday June 04, 2016 @02:20PM (#11837332)
I think mostly from the Skype deal, which was once in a lifetime.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by tedmiston on Saturday June 04, 2016 @02:28PM (#11837365)
"This is the power law distribution in practice."

http://blakemasters.com/post/21869934240/peter-thiels-cs183-...

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by foobarqux on Saturday June 04, 2016 @02:35PM (#11837404)
No, the Skype deal was very idiosyncratic: Andreessen was on the eBay board and no-shopped the Skype spinout to himself. That isn't going to happen again.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by nl on Saturday June 04, 2016 @11:40PM (#11839514)
Their second fund had Nicra ($1.26B), Instagram ($1B) and others. Not sure if the GroupOn and Zynga IPOs were first or second fund. Either way, that fund was a big success.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by foobarqux on Sunday June 05, 2016 @10:18AM (#11841070)
You may be right, but it's not enough to look at the names; a16z were buying badges at the outset.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by paulpauper on Saturday June 04, 2016 @12:21PM (#11836843)
here is a list of some of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz

Facebook, Twitter, Skype, AirBNB are why it's so valuable. All you need are a few huge winners.

The ones since 2012 don't seem so great though. Maybe too soon to tell

Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by g_delgado14 on Saturday June 04, 2016 @03:11PM (#11837548)
Marc Andreessen explicitly states in this podcast that he's not a value investor. He goes on to explain his actual investment thesis in it as well.
Re:Marc Andreessen – Lessons, Predictions, and Recommendatio... by dharmon on Saturday June 04, 2016 @04:38PM (#11837888)
The link was originally just talking about bubbles. It was swapped out with a link to the podcast, so I haven't listened to it.