Salary Negotiation

Re:Salary Negotiation by eweise on Friday June 03, 2016 @04:12PM (#11832896)

I think it depends on what type of person the company is looking for. If they are looking for a leader then they will respect you more if you bargain hard and maximize your worth. If they're looking for an agreeable doormat, then they will like you more for compromising on your worth. I've found that management likes rank and file engineers to be doormats, easily compromising and agreeable. Imagine if they have to work hard at the bargaining table, they're also going to work hard trying to get you to work long hours and weekends.

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Re:Salary Negotiation by 15155 on Friday June 03, 2016 @07:21PM (#11833954)

I can't think of a regular scenario where it would ever be positive to be in the doormat position.

In my experience, companies you actually want to work for will turn away the doormats.

I've actually spoken to a number of companies that have openly stated that they would not interview candidates that didn't request an amount greater than a certain dollar threshold (most recent one I can think of was >$160k base, Santa Monica).

This is the "we want skilled, assertive people" ideology taken to its conclusion.

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Re:Salary Negotiation by kelnos on Saturday June 04, 2016 @02:27AM (#11835222)

I just don't see the correlation, though. Your aptitude for being an engineering/technical leader need not be at all tied to your skill at negotiation. Those two things are very different skills. A place like HN should know that very well, as we often talk about the difference between soft skills and technical skills.

Personally I'm not a hard negotiator (though I'm willing to walk away if my -- generally not super aggressive -- number isn't met), but I tend to move myself into technical leadership positions fairly quickly when joining a new org.

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Re:Salary Negotiation by imron on Friday June 03, 2016 @11:21PM (#11834768)

they have to work hard at the bargaining table, they're also going to work hard trying to get you to work long hours and weekends

Good! My evenings and weekends are valuable to me and I want to work with people who value my time.

If they self-filter because they're a bad place to work, all the better.

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Re:Salary Negotiation by huac on Friday June 03, 2016 @04:24PM (#11832995)

Do you want to be treated like a doormat? If not, try again somewhere else.

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Re:Salary Negotiation by eweise on Friday June 03, 2016 @04:33PM (#11833067)

Exactly my point. Don't set the precedent at the bargaining table.

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