Windows 10 doesn't have built-in "surveillance functions". Your cell phone is much worse, from a "surveillance functions" point of view.

It's got GPS in it, they know where you are all the time!!!

Give me a break...

> Your cell phone is much worse, from a "surveillance functions" point of view. It's got GPS in it, they know where you are all the time!!!

That is one of the many reasons why I don't have a cell phone.

You don't have a cell phone but for you the Windows breaking point was when Win10 came out?

I think you're either not being very honest, or you don't know about the myriad of privacy issues Microsoft has had over its entire lifetime...

I know that I tolerated some things that Microsoft did for too long. I'm far from perfect here. What Microsoft did in Windows 10 was rather the final straw.

I nevertheless still stand by my thesis that the privacy issues that Windows introduced in the past have been far less severe than the privacy issues cell phones introduce (let alone for the fact that one can be geolocated for the whole time).

By the way: I know quite some people who don't have a cell phone for similar reasons.

> By the way: I know quite some people who don't have a cell phone for similar reasons.

Please, I beg of you -- don't even pretend like this view holds a significant percentage of the greater population's mind.

It's not the greater population but it is many of the key people in the business world and it is especially noticeable in Silicon Valley. Many geeks I know don't have social networking accounts or phones now.

> Your cell phone is much worse

1. You assume another person has a cell phone, a spying cell phone at that.

2. Even if your assumption is true, that makes Microsoft's actions okay because ... ?