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Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by golergka on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @08:36AM (#11813846)
How can you honestly think that after reading this thread?

The parent comment may or may not be correct (I honestly don't know), but author makes it really, really clear what his logic is, and it's nothing like it.

If you came to such a conclusion, it means that you skimmed through the comments above in 2 seconds, and not even trying to understand what was actually written.

Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by barrkel on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @02:22PM (#11816857)
Oh, I read the thread. The problem with his logic is that it leads to the conclusion of systemic importance; it's the same argument as too big to fail, in a different guise. If the evidence truly is enough to convict in court, isn't it antithetical to the rule of law not to convict, and accept settlements instead?
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by golergka on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @03:44PM (#11817524)
Size of organizations involved was never mentioned, so I really don't see how it's related to "too big to fail". His logic was completely different, and pretty straightforward: that anti-laundering legislation first threw mens rea out, and then ended up in a state where everybody is guilty be default.
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by IsaacL on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @09:15AM (#11814077)
Excellent comment. People need to be called out for this behavior.
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by barrkel on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @02:24PM (#11816878)
I think my comment pinpointed the contradiction at the heart of his logical argument; it was only acceptable if you don't believe in the rule of law.
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by golergka on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @03:44PM (#11817531)
Believing in the rule of law doesn't oblige you to believe in rule of stupid and illogical law.
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by barrkel on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @07:05PM (#11819000)
It's an analagous moral hazard, though. Even if bringing a bank down threatens the banking system, it must be done otherwise banks act with impunity. It's little different with bankers and "stupid and illogical law" - if we rely on discretion for which laws we apply, then we're entirely corrupt. We must apply the laws we have and live with the consequences, otherwise we don't live in a lawful society.

I see this as an absolute. I don't really see how it can be otherwise.

Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by golergka on Thursday June 02, 2016 @02:46AM (#11820792)
There wasn't a singpe mention of "bringing down banking system" here. Once again, you arguing without reading first.
Re:Britain is the most corrupt country in the world? by barrkel on Thursday June 02, 2016 @02:54AM (#11820818)
Now I know it's you that isn't reading! The comment I replied to explicitly said "it could trigger a collapse of the entire financial system".

This is the justification that sievebrain used for the selective application of what he considers to be poor laws.

I say we need to enforce poor laws too, because otherwise it's rule by men, not laws.