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Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by khedoros on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:33PM (#11809456)
As a counter-example, I had a similar experience with a mother and her daughter, except that they were still there when I came back out and were thankful for the food. I'm not saying that they're not bad at managing money (maybe they are), but there are more than one group contained within the label "that kind of person".

I've had other experiences with homeless men turning down food when I offered it. I know that my father-in-law would be (and has been, in the past) happy on the street, using his money for cigarettes and gambling with his friends. There are a lot of different kinds of people that would need to be accounted for and different motivations.

Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by blktiger on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:12PM (#11809808)
Agreed, which is why I prefer to provide goods rather than money. Plus I usually don't carry cash anyway.
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by KC8ZKF on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @06:10PM (#11810697)
But the alcoholic might need the drink more than food, and the drug addict might need the drugs more than a place to live. Perhaps not being sick for a couple more hours is the best thing for them at that moment. I'm not suggesting that you are under some moral obligation to buy them drugs, only that not giving them anything is not a moral position in itself.
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by eru on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @03:16AM (#11812605)
There are some "Managed Alcohol Programmes" that give out alcohol to the homeless (and encourage them to cut back).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-01/ezard-homelessness-and...

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Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by jacalata on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @08:13PM (#11811276)
Did you know you can die from cold turkey withdrawal on some drugs, including alcohol? Do you consider that irrelevant to "need"?
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by amake on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @10:49PM (#11811787)
I think you don't actually understand the needs vs wants of the people you're talking about.
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by imtringued on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @05:09AM (#11813024)
The only thing I've understood is that they don't want help.