Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income
by ricardobeat on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @02:15PM
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You don't get to decide what food or drinks other people can have. That's the whole point of a basic income - unconditional baseline support. Yes, many will fuck up and waste the money, but a majority is given peace of mind and leeway to improve their lives in ways not possible without it.
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income
by billmalarky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @02:12PM
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But at that point what you are describing isn't basic income. It's welfare+medicaid+food stamps+section 8 housing under a different moniker, along with all their administration costs and inefficiencies.
> There is certainly sufficient technology to track and even restrict the usage of BI funds.
That's not BI, that's the opposite of BI. The whole point of BI is to remove all such qualifications to eliminate the bureaucracy overhead.
So my idea is this, your restrictions on your BI lift as your income does to the point its just flat out money the ends up in your account. You could put forth some requirement that to receive BI you agree to have that portion of your income tracked.
So you get your BI. You are permitted to spend it at certified service and goods providers. A service provider could be your landlord, your mortgage company, or more, when it comes to residency. We already track food stamp usage so you lock down that too good healthy foods; no smokes, beer, or chips for you!.
With regards to medical. Catastrophic and preventative services are where government should look at for health care. Just play it out under similar rules to how most HSA based insurance plans work. You are subject to X amount per year and the rest is not your worry.
the danger of BI is that government fees which adversely impact the poor are just as likely to increase and worse knowing how many programs for the needy can work there are ample opportunities for fraud.
Oh, Canada's liberal party is thinking the BI solution http://winnipeg2016.liberal.ca/policy/poverty-reduction-mini...