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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by JacobJans on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @12:57PM (#11807794)
> The whole safe space movement was stifling freedom of speech

Consider that certain people's freedom of speech is already stifled.

What should we do about that?

Want to trade places with them?

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by PKop on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @02:25PM (#11808781)
We should unstifle it.

Are you claiming that safe-space movements that stifle free speech are justified, because someone else's free speech was stifled?

Please give us an example with details of what exactly you are talking about.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by JacobJans on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:05PM (#11810232)
> safe-space movements that stifle free speech

Safe spaces do not stifle free speech. Just as your ability to limit who enters your home (if you have one) does not stifle free speech, safe spaces do not stifle free speech.

I would argue that they actually increase freedom of speech, because they give certain individuals freedom to express themselves without fear of retribution. Something that can be rather difficult achieve for some people.

Of course, there are problems with the safe space movement. For example, they often highlight racial/ethnic/gender differences between people. In my analysis, it seems that marginalized people have realized the world is not going to change any time soon, and that they will continue to be marginalized – which is the motivation for creating a safe place.

Should Facebook/Twitter be a "safe space"? Probably not – but Facebook has been very succcesful at creating such safe spaces with their Groups platform, which seem to be gaining more and more traction.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by PKop on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:31PM (#11810433)
There are countless examples of "safe-spaces" being argued for on campus to shut down campus speakers, debate, not allowing video of protests, etc. Would you like links for reference?

But first, since you're defending the concept, how would you define a safe space... and how is the space kept "safe"?

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by StanislavPetrov on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @08:01PM (#11811230)
>Safe spaces do not stifle free speech.

The definition of a "safe space" is one where free speech is not allowed. We have had safe spaces for centuries, they are called homes. At home, you are free to shield yourself from whatever speech, ideas, or behavior you find offensive. The whole crux of a free society is the freedom to be boorish, crude, or otherwise offensive. That's what freedom means. It means there is no authority that decides what forms of speech or expression are not allowed. We already have laws against assault and harassment, and those are enough.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by advantark on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:56PM (#11810610)
Safe spaces are echo chambers. Only people who align with their own views are allowed, so those views are the only ones expressed. It's "Free" as long as you say what they want to hear.
Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by 20years on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @08:58PM (#11811421)
"Safe spaces do not stifle free speech"

Yes they do. If you would like I can provide countless references and videos that showcase just how much they stifle free speech.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by the_watcher on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @06:37PM (#11810823)
> Safe spaces do not stifle free speech.

Yes, they do, by definition.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by ZoF on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @09:52AM (#11814319)
>Safe spaces do not stifle free speech.

A space where you can't say certain things doesn't stifle free speech.

Care to explain?

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by ZoF on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @01:40PM (#11808341)
This comment makes zero sense in this context.

The parent poster said he was for defending free speech, why would he want to switch places to somewhere where it's restricted?

What is your objection even? That because free speech is restricted in e.g. North Korea we should start restricting it elsewhere?

Or are you implying that oppressed demographics(e.g. homosexuals, black people, etc.) are having their freedom of speech stifled and therefore restrictions in free speech as a result of the 'safe space' movement are justified?

That's the only reasonably understandable(albeit flawed in my personal opinion) interpretation of your comment I can really make.

Care to clarify?

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by stonecraftwolf on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:03PM (#11809720)
How is it flawed? A TOS that discourages hate speech and enforces some sort of standard seems far less stifling than intimidation by rape and death threats.

It's funny to see people get bent out of shape at the idea that they might have to watch what they say when the consequences of saying something offensive are just that a platform might not let them publish everything they want to while there are large groups of people who already have to watch what they say because the consequences of saying something that another group disagrees with are rape threats, death threats, and harassment campaigns.

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by ZoF on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @09:49AM (#11814290)
>It's funny to see people get bent out of shape at the idea that they might have to watch what they say

I strongly believe in free speech and I will absolutely be 'bent out of shape' when people or groups try to stifle it.

>there are large groups of people who already have to watch what they say because the consequences of saying something that another group disagrees with are rape threats, death threats, and harassment campaigns.

Please provide me a modern day example of this in the US.(where these companies are located)

Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by Karunamon on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @01:15PM (#11808018)
Could you be more specific? Who's? If we're talking about an online context, barring the kind of censorship we're talking about here, that's strictly false. A tweet is a tweet is a tweet.