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Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:01AM (#11805125)
Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins (C, Go, Python), and I'm more productive with it although it lacks some features in the editor itself. And it doesn't feel slower even though it's written in JS. Plus it's open source.

I hope the Sublime author will release it as open source, at least in some IntelliJ style freemium model. That might give it back the boost it needs.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by throwaway6436 on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:01AM (#11805329)
Man, the FUD in this thread. Shill much?

Is freemium the new EEE? How do you expect the man to make money?

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:13AM (#11805352)
Jetbrains seem to be making quite a lot of money from the IDEA series. Shill, really? I have nothing against Sublime charging money, the only reason I'm not buying it is that it's not a good enough editor (for me!).

What I'm saying is that if he opens at least some of Sublime it might help make it a better editor and advance faster with the help of a community. It certainly beats Sublime becoming irrelevant and dying eventually, which I really hope it won't. I'd really prefer using sublime, but I'm simply using the best tool (BTW Sublime is still a better editor, no plugins installed on either). Open source is a plus for me, not a must.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by throwaway6436 on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @02:30PM (#11808827)
ST becoming open-source is one thing, making it freemium another. I was talking about the latter.

Does freemium really work at all for anyone? Gets you new users quickly but then 1 in 10,000 converts. This works for established companies as they can weather the freeloaders with piles of cash from other parts of the business. Or in the case of VC-backed companies, from the money fountain (better not ask Spotify about that though).

I just can't see how a small company depending on a single product would benefit from this model.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @02:13AM (#11812366)
For IDEs there's a clear path here - for a company, even a small startup, <$100 per developer is really no biggie, even if no private person would pay that. I used to pay for PyCharm (via my employer) when I worked mainly in Python because I needed the extra features.

BTW Sublime are more or less Freemium right now, even worse - you don't HAVE to pay, you just get those annoying messages. It's practically a donation model right now.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by imron on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:38AM (#11805245)
> For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins

I bet the Sublime spell-check plugin doesn't send your entire file to a third-party server over plain http.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by LaurentVB on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:47AM (#11805282)
Probably not, but it's also pretty hard to know what Sublime does, given its closed-source nature.
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:14AM (#11805356)
Does VScode's?
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by imron on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:35AM (#11805424)
The most popular one does, at least according to this recent HN thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11804366

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:04AM (#11805519)
Thanks. Not using this one.
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by tiplus on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:16AM (#11805180)
Why does VSCode need a 'Pricacy Statement' (Help menu) which explains how Microsoft shares personal data? I get that it was written by MS, but why would I want a code editor that calls home? Or better ask does it send user/system data back to MS?

this cfg entry:

// Enable usage data and errors to be sent to Microsoft.

"telemetry.enableTelemetry": true,

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:23AM (#11805205)
the privacy statement is generic to the visual studio family of products I guess. they state they collect my name but VScode doesn't know my name.

As long as telemetry is what's being collected, and I can disable it (and fork VScode if not), I'm good with it.

EDIT: Also, other editors phone home as well. IntelliJ certainly does, and I'm pretty sure Sublime as well.

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by z3t4 on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:52AM (#11805639)
> web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter.

https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @06:41AM (#11805773)
it's a bit unclear but in the context of the whole document, it seems like they mean web pages and searches on their website, which is both legit and trivial. What worries me a bit is the fact that it's unclear.
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by ensiferum on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:07AM (#11805148)
Does VSCode have a plugin for C++ code completion yet? There are several for ST.
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by stinos on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:11AM (#11805161)
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/03/31/cc-extens...

and afaik it has been updated just last week with new features

Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dvirsky on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:21AM (#11805198)
It has an excellent one developed by MS people, and a few indie ones, which I used up until a couple of weeks ago, when the MS plugin started working properly on Linux. You'll need to install the dotnet cli stuff, but they provide official packages for Linux as well, so it wasn't an issue.
Re:Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build by dagw on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:12AM (#11805165)
They have at least two