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Re:The Curse of the Ramones by alrs on Monday May 30, 2016 @09:11PM (#11804041)
I've told a variation of this story to a ton of people, to specifically address the confinement of success.

They had the choice of sticking with the same colleagues they'd worked with (and increasingly hated) for 20 years, or being record store employees. Imagine if your livelihood was tied to working only with a few other people, and one of them had a tendency to beat you up, one was a heroin addict, and the other was an OCD acid-casualty. Imagine you had to live in a bus with them for years on end.

Re:The Curse of the Ramones by bogomipz on Monday May 30, 2016 @10:59PM (#11804293)
Not really, Tommy left early on as the article mentions and had a decent career as an engineer doing studio work, Dee Dee left in the mid-80s and pursued a solo career. The only constants were Johnny and Joey. There were other Ramones that article doesn't mention Elvis, CJ and Richie.
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by alrs on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @12:21AM (#11804553)
Dee Dee pursued a solo career and failed. He had to keep writing Ramones songs, only without collecting any of the touring revenue.

IIRC, he was often somewhat in "debt" to the band, as they'd bail him out of jail with the requirement that he would provide songs for the next album, even though he was no longer a full member.

Career-wise, CBGB was a ticket to nothing. I've never bought a solo album by anyone who was in Blondie, Talking Heads, or the Ramones, but I do remember seeing that stuff in the used discount bins, unwanted.

Re:The Curse of the Ramones by bogomipz on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @08:24AM (#11806110)
We'll he collected publishing money,and a flat fee. He didn't do it for free. David Byrne had an amazing and wonderful career and he came out of CBGB. Blondie as well. I'm sure Blondie lives off of the publishing from songs on Parallel Lines. A lifetime of passive income? I'm not sure I would call that a ticket to nowhere.
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by alrs on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @11:20AM (#11807035)
If Blondie or the Talking Heads broke up after the first year we would have never heard of them.

Byrne has done OK, but couldn't have bankrolled his label without his 80s Heads income.

Re:The Curse of the Ramones by amouat on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:57AM (#11805496)
Ha, I think David Byrne has had a pretty successful career by any standard!
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by Nrsolis on Monday May 30, 2016 @11:16PM (#11804333)
I had the great pleasure of drinking with CJ Ramone on the day that my divorce was final. We closed down the bar IIRC.

Great guy. Fun to talk to.

Re:The Curse of the Ramones by gluelogic on Monday May 30, 2016 @11:05PM (#11804307)
The article does mention Marky Ramone a number of times
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by bogomipz on Monday May 30, 2016 @11:52PM (#11804440)
I meant Richie, I updated my comment.
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by ams6110 on Monday May 30, 2016 @11:42PM (#11804413)
I don't know -- after a year or two with regular gigs at CBGB they could all have very likely easily found work with (or started) other bands. They (at least Johnny and Joey) chose to stay together because the band was more important to them than their personal feelings towards one another, not because they had no other viable options.
Re:The Curse of the Ramones by BurningFrog on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @06:46PM (#11810874)
Tenure at universities has a similar effect. You have a job for life, but you're stuck with the other equally unfirable people.

I suspect that is one reason personal feuds in academia can be so bitter and last so many decades.